Your “Minimum Effective Dose” Of Learning Japanese

You’ll have to bear with me, here. I’m going to teach you how to cheat. Cheating!? Blasphemy! I learned from my mommy that cheating is bad! But let’s think about cheating for a moment, here. If you’re taking a test in school and you cheat, you get a better grade. Plus, you don’t have to put in as much work. But, in that scenario, you’re cheating yourself too because you’re not learning anything. You are, however, getting to your desired outcome, which is to get a better grade (what you learn in school is mostly useless anyhow).

Now, let’s think about cheating in real life. Here, your desired outcome isn’t to get a good grade, it’s simply to get to your desired outcome. So for example, let’s say your desired outcome is “to become fluent in Japanese.” If you “cheat,” and you get to your desired outcome (becoming fluent in Japanese), you’re still getting fluent in Japanese. The cheating part is how you get there. Of course, cheating in real life can bring about very negative consequences as well, but in this case cheating is just helping you out.

Minimum Effective Dose (MED)

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In order to help you to “cheat” to learn Japanese better, you are going to have to learn about something known as the “Minimum Effective Dose,” or MED. I mentioned it in my Japanese Long Breath Diet post, but it’s even more applicable here. MED, put simply, is the smallest dose that will still produce the desired outcome. In bodybuilding, it’s the amount of any particular exercise (or steroids) one can do in order to release an ideal amount of muscle building hormones. It’s also choosing the most effective exercises to get them to that point with the least amount of effort. If you exercise way too much, on the other hand, you’re not getting the same amount of results for the time put in (not to mention the way longer recovery time after).

Here are some other examples that help to explain MED, from Ferris’ book, The 4-Hour Body (he’s the guy who popularized the concept).

To boil water, the MED is 212°F (100°C) at standard air pressure. Boiled is boiled. Higher temperatures will not make it “more boiled.” Higher temperatures just consume more resources that could be used for something else more productive.

Another:

If you need 15 minutes in the sun to trigger a melanin response, 15 minutes is your MED for tanning. More than 15 minutes is redundant and will just result in burning and a forced break from the beach. During this forced break from the beach, let’s assume one week, someone else who heeded his natural 15-minute MED will be able to fit in four more tanning sessions. He is four shades darker, whereas you have returned to your pale pre-beach self. Sad little manatee. In biological systems, exceeding your MED can freeze progress for weeks, even months.

You get the idea, right? Doing more isn’t always better. In this article my goal is to show you where you’re going over the MED just in your Japanese studies. I’ll also talk about some interesting ideas you can use that relate to MED to cut your quest to Japanese fluency down considerably.

Your Inefficient Japanese Study

With Japanese study, one way to measure MED is to think about how long it takes to learn a kanji, vocab word, or grammar point. Another way to think about it is in terms of “time to fluency.” I’ll be covering both of these things, but in the end it comes down to what works best for you. Everyone’s MED is going to be a little bit different. These ideas and suggestions will need to be altered to fit you as an individual, so keep that in mind.

First, Solidify Your Pronunciation

Think about something abstract. You probably can’t, can you? This is because abstract things are things you know nothing about. You have nothing in your brain already that you can hook this “abstract” thing into, making it very difficult to memorize. This is why on TextFugu and WaniKani we make sure that everything builds on previous lessons so that nothing is abstract. New memories are attached to old memories, making everything much easier to grasp. With TextFugu, we start you off with hiragana as the very first foundational step that you get to build off of. Why? Because it teaches you Japanese pronunciation.

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Now why would this be important? And how will this save you time? First of all, it helps to reduce the “abstractness” of the Japanese language. When you feel solid on pronunciation (not to mention the kana), you have something to work off of. In fact, everything works off of the pronunciation for the phonetic “alphabet” that makes up the Japanese language. When you’re not thinking about and worrying about the sounds, you can think and worry about the words and the grammar instead. These are the things that move you forward.

Spending a little bit of time on the pronunciation will speed everything up quite a bit. The MED here is that you’re allowing yourself to focus in on what it needs to focus in on. Ignoring pronunciation will make you less confident down the road and make things harder and harder as you try to learn more, thus wasting time in the long run. A small dose of pronunciation has a lot of positive effect!

Instead Of Going To Japanese Class…

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While joining and going to a Japanese class has its obvious benefits, think about what you’re giving up in return. First of all, it’s a lot of time, and that time is spent at a speed set by the teacher. If the teacher makes you learn faster, you learn faster. If they have you learn more slowly, you’ll learn more slowly. That’s the problem with classes, they go as fast as the teacher (or slowest student) wants. But, there’s some other things to consider as well. How much money are you spending on a semester of class? What about a year? Some Japanese classes are going to be very cheap, so good for you. Others will be in the thousands of dollars, if you consider what a college education will run you. Instead, why not take those thousands and go to Japan for a week or two?

Think about it. First of all, it will probably force you to cram a whole lot in the week or two before you leave, meaning you’ll be focusing and learning a ton during that time period. Procrastinating will do that to you. Then, when you get there, you can make it your goal to talk to as many people as you can. Listening and reading will get a huge boost too! There’s nothing like a concentrated immersion to jump you several levels up. This will vary from person to person, but if someone told me I could spend the same amount of money hanging out in Japan to learn the same amount of material (or more) in a tenth of the time… why would you not do it?

Most people bring it down to the cost, but if you’re already spending money on an expensive class, going to Japan to immerse yourself for a little bit is almost certainly a more efficient option (a lot more fun, too). The MED here is that you’re getting the most out of a shorter amount of time for a similar amount of money. Less time waste, more language gain. Win-win.

That being said, effectiveness and cost of said class will vary. Something to think about for many of you, anyways.

Kanji Repetitions… Repetitions… Repetitions…

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I think we’ve all done it. “Write this kanji 100 times!” they say. “You’ll learn the kanji this way!” they say. But, in the end you don’t remember how to write the kanji you wrote all those times the next day. This is because after the first few times, your brain goes on autopilot and you write the kanji over and over again without making much memory progress. Even worse, a lot of the time you write the kanji again by looking at the previous kanji you wrote. That means you’re not performing any recall at all, which also means you’re not learning anything (memories are made stronger by recalling said memories, not by trying to stuff them into your head repeatedly).

Yet, this is how almost everyone has you “learn” kanji. It’s easy for the teachers. Also, it’s “the way its always been done,” especially if you look at Japan and how their kids learn kanji. There’s a myth, though, that Japanese kids learn all the Joyo kanji faster than anyone else. They’re Japanese! They must be able to learn the kanji faster than us! Boo. Thing is, it’s taking them 5-6 years to learn all the Joyo kanji. Sure, being in Japan they have the advantage of being around kanji all the time. But, you can learn the kanji faster than any Japanese kid if you stop learning like a Japanese kid. Adults really can learn faster than children. The reason they don’t is because they’re not smart about how they learn (kids have that sponge-brain advantage, so they learn somewhat fast despite using poor learning systems). Use your adult smarts to become an insanely good learner!

With kanji learning, there are a few things you need to do to cut out the wasteful repetition.

  1. Think in terms of radicals. This means you learn pieces of the kanji that can be re-used in multiple kanji (efficient!) as well as decrease the amount of things you have to learn per kanji (3 radicals to make a kanji or 15 strokes? I’ll choose the smaller number, thank you very much). Resources that use this method include: WaniKani, KanjiDamage, Kanji Koohii, and Remembering The Kanji.
  2. If you do insist on writing the kanji (more on that in a second) force yourself to recall the kanji from scratch each time you write it down. Looking at a reference while you write will not make your memory any stronger. It’s just a waste of time.
  3. Use an SRS (spaced repetition system) like Anki or Memrise. These will help you to study the kanji items at ideal times. The strongest advancement of a memory you want to improve on happens right before you forget it. Forcing yourself to recall an item at this period in memory will tell your brain it’s very important to keep. Spaced repetition will help you to achieve this without having to think about when to study. It cuts down on wasteful study repetitions as well.

The main thing is… don’t do hundreds of repetitions of kanji just because everyone else does it. I know a few of you in the comments will say “well, actually it works for me,” but I promise you… there’s some inefficiency going on there. Writing a kanji three times (while forcing yourself to recall the kanji from scratch) is going to give you a lot more progress than writing a kanji 100 times that you copy over and over again. Guess which one takes less time (and cramps your hand up less)? You got it. There’s your MED for kanji repetition.

Writing By Hand

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I’ve written about this before, but I think it’s important to reiterate. At least when it comes to MED, you do not need to learn how to write kanji. There are two main reasons for this:

  1. When was the last time you had to hand write something? Sure, it happens sometimes, but almost all writing communication is done via cell phone or the computer.
  2. It doubles (or triples) the amount of time you have to spend on each kanji. If your goal is fluency, or even just the ability to read, learning to write all the kanji by hand is a waste of time and effort, at least when you compare it to what benefit you’re getting.

I’m going to pad this “you don’t need to learn to write” statement by saying that sure, it’s nice to be able to hand write kanji, but if you’re looking to learn the most possible in the shortest amount of time, learning to write kanji is going to slow you down considerably. We’re looking at the minimum effective dose, here.

Plus, if you learn your kanji radicals really well, and then you learn the basic stroke order rules, you can learn to hand write any kanji you want later on. Don’t waste your time on something you will barely be using in exchange for getting to fluency more quickly.

On an ending note, a lot of people will say that handwriting helps with retention, and those people will indeed be right. But, in terms of the time versus benefit, I don’t think it’s a fair trade at all. Many, many WaniKani members will be able to attest to both the speed and benefit of only focusing on reading, I think. Writing may improve retention, but it will hold your overall progress back as well if you let it.

Hacking Grammar

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This is something I’ve been reading up a lot on and thinking about while working on the next revisions of TextFugu (that unicorn does exist, believe it or not!). Anyways, let me share with you some of my thoughts on this, and perhaps you can apply them to your own studies right now.

One thing I’ve found is that there are a handful of grammar terms that you can learn that will give you a lot more bang for your buck. Once you’ve learned them, you’ll be able to say and understand a lot more than you’ve ever thought possible. Supposedly, these are them:

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How long would it take to learn and understand these 12 grammar points? Probably not that long, if you put in the effort. I bet you could get them all down in three hours or less. How long would it take you to learn all these grammar points in a classroom? Three months? Six months? I guess it really depends on the teacher.

A couple things to note about this:

  • The vocabulary is pretty much all the same across the board (meaning you can focus on the grammar part), and it’s mainly about finding and understanding the differences between them.
  • It teaches you a lot more than you might think at first glance. Check out the tenses, parts of speech, and so on, and you’ll see what I mean.

Now, this only gets you grammar, though it gets you a lot of grammar in a shorter period of time. Any other grammar will probably work off of this grammar in one way or another, so it will also provide a solid base for you. One big thing is missing, though, and that’s vocabulary. Let’s cover the MED of that, next.

Japanese Vocabulary Learning

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Learning the 1,000 most common words in any language is said to cover around 70% of the words used in everyday speech. Learning 2,000 will get you to somewhere more like 80%. The last 20% requires a lot more words than that, so I think you can see how ordering your vocabulary learning will increase learning efficiency.

While 70-80% of “everyday speech” isn’t quite enough to be fluent, it does get you a lot of the way there (70-80% of the way, in fact!). This is enough to talk with people, understand a lot of what’s being said or written, and giving yourself a very solid base to work from.

But, how do you know even what these 1,000 common words are?

There’s a lot of lists out there (this one is pretty good) that are worth looking at. In fact, a Google search for “most common Japanese words” will give you an overwhelming number of results. I think the main thing to do here is to not get caught up in all the lists, because they’re all somewhat similar. WaniKani could even be considered a “common words list,” though by adding kanji in there we’re complicating things quite a bit.

Speaking of kanji, Japanese isn’t like most other languages. Learning the kanji and their meanings / readings can help you to learn vocabulary as well. While combining kanji and vocab learning will require a different ordering from most “common word lists” it does have its perks, especially if you want to learn to read Japanese down the line. So, word frequency isn’t the only thing you can think about when learning Japanese vocabulary. You have to think of the kanji ordering as well. Let’s do that…

Kanji Vs. Kanji Meaning

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How complicated a kanji is and how complicated the meaning of a kanji is are two completely different things. If you’re a Japanese kid, you’ll learn kanji with a less complicated meaning first then work your way up to the concepts that are more difficult to understand. It’s the same thing in English, too.

Cat: Short word, simple meaning, easy to understand, learned early in life.

Elephant: Long word, simple meaning, easy to understand, also learned early in life.

Zinc: Short word, difficult meaning, learned later in life.

Do you see the difference here? Kids will learn the word “elephant” before they learn the word “zinc,” even though it’s longer. With kanji it’s the same thing. Kids will learn 食 and 曜 before they learn 亡 or 久. Just from looking at those, you can see which one is simpler from a visual standpoint. The meaning is more difficult on those two simpler looking kanji, but the actual kanji itself is easy!

Being a non-child yourself (I’m assuming), you don’t have to learn kanji the way Japanese kids do it. You can learn kanji in an order that focuses on the difficulty of the kanji itself (at least at first) rather than the difficulty of the meaning of the kanji. From there, you can build up and learn more and more complicated kanji. As a bonus, these simpler kanji will Voltron into more complicated kanji, helping you to build up, step by step. Since the goal is to learn the joyo kanji (for most people), the order should be set up so it’s ideal for getting you to that end goal as quickly as possible

Yet, most people don’t learn it this way, going from simple meaning to difficult meaning, ignoring how complicated the kanji is. Just because Japanese kids do it a certain way doesn’t mean it’s going to be the best way for everyone (though many teachers will try to tell you otherwise, so be careful!).

Some resources that do it the good way: WaniKani, KanjiDamage, Kanji Koohii, and Remembering The Kanji.

Studying In Smaller Doses

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I’ve said this a million times, but it deserves to be said again and again… consistency is going to be your best friend in language acquisition. Short, frequent bursts of study all the time are going to get you further forward than studying infrequently in bigger chunks.

There are a few reasons for this.

  • First, the typical brain can only take so much at one time. You have to let information process a bit in between study sessions. Sleeping between studying helps a lot too.
  • It’s harder to focus for long periods of time, but it’s easy to focus for short periods. Shorter focused study is better than a long unfocused one.
  • Frequent but separated studying also allows you to recall memories in a more spread out fashion. Just like with SRS, recalling things before you forget them is more helpful than repeatedly recalling something over and over in a short span of time. It tells your brain that this information is important. Short, separate study bursts encourage this.

Studying this way takes the least amount of time overall and gives you the most benefit from the effort. As long as you make it a habit to study in all the little cracks of time you have, you’ll be making a ton of progress in no time at all. In fact, it’ll be like you aren’t even taking up more time at all, which is nice for those of you who are “forever busy.”

Do The Hard Things

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Ha! Just because we’re cheating doesn’t mean it’s going to be easy! In fact, doing the hard things is what separates the successful from the unsuccessful. If you want to become fluent in Japanese, you have to do the hard things too. So, find out what your weak points are (no really, sit and write them out). Be brutal. These are the things keeping you from making any good progress. They’re the things that make MED more difficult, and you need to get them out of the way.

While I can’t speak for everyone’s weak points, here are some general ways to get rid of them.

  1. Figure out what those weak points are. Enough said.
  2. Break them down. Figure out what makes the concept tick. Can you identify three things that make the concept what it is? If you removed any of the three, it wouldn’t work anymore.
  3. Focus on those three separate things, trying to improve them apart from each other. Then, combine them back together.
  4. Repeat.

This isn’t easy, and it isn’t particularly fun, but it’s way better than just letting it sit there forever, hoping it gets better (it won’t). If you don’t focus in on the things that give you trouble you’re never going to advance. It’s better to know that now rather than later. And, once they’ve been removed, you’ll find yourself moving along faster than ever before.

Applying MED To The Rest Of Your Life

You can, of course, apply this style of thinking to the rest of your life too. While it becomes tiring to always think “MED this” and “MED that,” it can really help you to make improvements on just about anything you do on a regular basis. This will give you more time for doing the things you actually love, and maybe it will have other perks and benefits too (promotion?). As you develop this framework of thinking, you’ll naturally get better at just about everything.

But, it’s not a fast process, and it will be one that you keep refining and learning about, but that’s half the fun. I know that not all of the above techniques and methods here will be agreeable to all of you, but I hope you found something you can take away with you that will help you in your life and in your Japanese. I may be helping you to “cheat,” but you still have a lot of work to do, I promise :)

Good luck!

  • Brad

    Loved the article Koichi :) I always believed unicorns were real.

  • Christopher Stilson

    One thing I’m learning in my experience is that having easy access to a dictionary slows down vocabulary retention significantly, especially if it’s a really good dictionary like the iOS ‘Japanese’ app (which finally has a handwriting recognition function that actually WORKS). I spent weeks looking up words like 勝負 until I hit a chapter in the light novel I’m translating that used them practically every other sentence. However, once the meaning of a word clicks, it’s not likely to be forgotten any time soon.

    Of course, the other problem with that is that if you haven’t learned all the various character pronunciations, you end up choosing the one you know on the next word that uses the same kanji, and if you’re in a hurry you don’t notice that it’s wrong… it also took weeks to get past entering 変わる as ‘hen-(space-enter)-waru-(enter)’…

  • laurence

    That’s extremly helpful, I’m a fan of using MED myself on all aspects of life that I can. My biggest week point is grammar, I have pretty good vocab, I understand well, know a bunch of kanji and have almost perfect pronunciation…
    BUT I can’t speak Japanese, like, at all. The sentence doesn’t want to form in my head. I was wondering, this list of english sentences you put up there, is there a japanese version I can get somewhere? that would be awesome.

  • http://www.tofugu.com koichi

    ideally you’d create your own and learn a lot in the process ;)

  • Ai Chusyu

    Thank you!

  • CentupleChaos

    Thank you for the article, Koichi. I’ve been looking to find a different approach to learning Japanese; common words and looking at kanji from a different perspective may just be the answer for me. ^.^

  • Charlie

    I somewhat disagree with the bit on learning simplistic looking kanji first, simply due to the fact that the way they teach it now, whether or not is it actually said, gives a lot of initial radicals, and knowledge of the usage of several different radicals through example. For example, 食 is a great radical to know that will help the understanding of almost any kanji with the radical contained in it. After that, is 曜, which through example gives practice and an example, to the japanese learner, of three radicals rather than one simplistic kanji that could only generally be used for the understanding of that kanji alone.

  • Senjougahara

    I wish WK existed 5 years ago, when I was in high school. I tried to teach myself from lists and books, but it never stuck. Even in my college class, I’d learn it for the test, and it would be fuzzy the next week, and gone a month later. With WK, I’m learning 30-40 Kanji + 100 vocab a week.That’s probably double my old pace, and it sticks way better. And because of the system, it feels like a game. Also the community is awesome and helpful.Thanks a lot Koichi, Viet, and friends!

  • http://www.tofugu.com koichi

    I wish I had WK back in school too :(

  • Alexander

    Great article Koichi. Glad to hear TF isn’t dead! I love your explainations of the japanese language.

  • me

    I wish I had subscription to textfugu and wanikani :(

  • Musouka

    For pronunciation, this guy claims to have the ultimate solution:

    http://youtu.be/jSIwo5v5vnw

  • Little Wonder

    I agree. But I guess life can never be perfect.

  • Time

    I wish WK had a lifetime subscription.

  • Jonathan Harston

    he he. It would have been useful 25 years ago when I was learning ;)
    I’ve technically become functionally illiterate in that I’ve forgotten how to read Japanese, but can happily natter away quite fluently.

  • NelemNaru

    I’m taking a Japanese class in college this semester because of the language requirement for a degree, and it looks good on a resume, especially since I want to work in Japan. Also, I’ll probably get to meet other people interested in Japanese culture. But I’m not taking the class so much to learn Japanese. Since I’m ahead in WaniKani and TextFugu, I’m hoping studying will be a breeze. As long as I stay ahead in self-study, I should have a better time with retention, and class will just be an extra SRS session.

  • Hinoema

    A++ article. However, I’d recommend one thing; to really speed up learning, why not just leave out one part- the part that seems to stop the most people:

    “But, you can learn the kanji…”

    Or maybe there’s another way. Stop learning kanji.

    No, I’m serious. Pretend that there are no such things as kanji, at least as far as early studying goes. I really think this focus on ‘learning kanji’ causes a state of not seeing the forest (words) for the trees (kanji).

    “Think in terms of radicals. This means you learn pieces of the kanji that can be re-used in multiple kanji (efficient!) as well as decrease the amount of things you have to learn per kanji (3 radicals to make a kanji or 15 strokes)?”

    …or one word? I’ve had to set aside my Japanese studies for the last two years to pursue a traditional degree to, you know, make some money. (I’m Learning the Java instead.) However, at the time I focused exclusively on grammar and learning complete words- not a lot, but a good core. I find that even after two years of non-study, those words I learned are still there. I think there may be some virtue in focusing on words, with actual tangible meanings, and letting the kanji clarify themselves as a side effect of word study. Words seem to stick better, at least in my experience.

    I totally love the rest of the article, though. In closing:

    “Learning the kanji and their meanings / readings can help you to learn vocabulary as well.”

    So maybe learning vocabulary can help you learn the kanji and their meanings / readings as well, too, eh? And maybe even faster for some.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/YAMAstudios Jon Walmsley

    Koichi I love your material, WaniKani and Textfugu are some of the best Japanese learning resources out there and they have helped my private Japanese study immensely, but I am currently set to start studying Japanese at university this autumn and thus, I have a few points of contention with your own views about studying Japanese at university possibly being ineffective. It certainly could be ineffective and a waste of time, but as you said, it varies and it will depend on you as an individual and on the institution. These points are really about full time university study, not part or full time individual Japanese classes.

    For starters though your point about spending the money it would cost to study at university on trips to Japan instead has one major flaw: student loans. Most people won’t have all that money to study at university because they get it in the form of student loans that are obviously only attainable for said study, so no thousands of dollars to go on trips to Japan to get really good at Japanese. Unless of course you’re really rich, in which case, damn you…

    Secondly, whilst there is a good argument for lessons very possibly slowing your own learning down if they are not at the same pace as your own learning, university is as much about the lessons as it is about private study. Sure, you pay those tuition fees for the lessons, but they don’t just cover the actual lessons, they mean you have access to your tutors always via e-mail and through
    dedicated open office hours where you can receive more specific one-on-one tuition tailored to your needs that reflects where you are as an individual learner in private study. Of course not everywhere has great tutors so you have to pick your institution wisely. The tuition fees also give you access to whatever learning resources the institution has at their disposal, and though this will obviously vary in quality, the better places have some great facilities that can especially help test you’re listening and speaking skills, skills harder to hone than reading or writing when in private study and living outside the country. Talking of Japan itself, there is also the fact that at least here in the UK most Japanese language courses include one year studying abroad as part of the course, something you wouldn’t normally be able to afford without student loans. You are also of course surrounded on a daily basis by other people learning the language as well and that are hopefully passionate about it and many things Japanese which can benefit your own learning if you help one another.

    Lastly University isn’t just about studying for your degree (though that’s obviously the main reason), you go to university for the wide range of experiences and resources open to you (assuming you pick a good one) that allow you to broaden your horizons, better your mind, make more friends and enjoy yourself whilst doing it all. This is all of course dependent on you and your own attitude and aspirations; many people go to university but don’t make the best use of their time there by squandering these opportunities, I should know, I was one of those people for the most part (for a year at least). That though was mainly down to the subject I picked, and I picked wrong discovering that you have to be passionate or at the very least, extremely interested in your degree subject if you’re going to enjoy said degree (which I wasn’t, but sometimes you only find these things out when you take the plunge). I knew several people that disliked were indifferent or only had a minimal interest in what they were studying but they found value in all the extra-curricular stuff going on at university. One or two I knew where very into their degree but didn’t engage with everything else going on at university. Both options aren’t the ideal to strive for, which is feeling passionate about your subject and enjoying the hell out of studying it whilst getting involved in all the extra stuff that interests you (though for that, you need to be open to new experiences as well). It’s a difficult balance to achieve but its one that I know will make my future time at university more than worthwhile if I do achieve it now that I know what I actually want to do.

  • legendofleo

    I did this during university, focused mainly on grammar and listening/speaking. And yes I became reasonably fluent.

    However I now find that it’s a lot harder trying to recall words correctly without kanji knowledge, basically because the words exist as sounds in your head. This also causes a lot of problems with words that sound exactly the same (but have different meanings) used in different contexts. Another thing I’ve noticed is that a lot of compound words have a kind of logical sense to them (basic example 朝 morning + 食 meal = 朝食 breakfast), which I’m sure would help with recall.

    I am beginning to try and remedy my own Japanese atm with some serious vocab/kanji study to prepare for the N1.

  • Hinoema

    That’s understandable. Of course, I’m not saying ‘don’t study kanji period’. I’m just suggesting that it may be better to learn readings and meanings of a kanji as part of having learned a word. Like learning 誕生日 and noting that 日 is ‘bi’ in this case and usually means ‘day’. The context helps me. I find it easier than sitting in front of a pile of kanji before you know any words… I know the kanji-pile technique doesn’t work for me AT ALL. Different strokes etc.

  • Naryoril

    i think you missed the point. What you say is basically the same koichi says. 食 is more simplistic than 飲、so you should learn 食 first, then you have a radical you can use in more complex kanji. As for 曜, his point is you should learn 日 before learning 曜. In these examples the meaning of the radical kanji may not be more abstract or difficult than the resulting kanji, but there are cases. 生 is part of 性 , but “life” is a much more abstract meaning than “gender” (although i guess japanese children learn 生 fist as well). Unfortunately Wanikani doesn’t do this in all cases. Like you learn 線 before you learn 泉

  • M4K0T0

    You could use lang-8 or italki or some other site to let other japanese people correct your translated sentences ;)

  • 美白

    i realized some of these at the end of last term.. i wish i’d know at the beginning of last term at least.

    but really great tips!!

    for people like me, who really have difficulty with kanji, i also suggest getting apps etc to review on your phone whenever you have a free minute.
    you literally forget things just an hour after learning them, so if you review 5times + throughout the day, it will eventually get into your long term memory without too much effort.

    random chart i found on memory
    http://jwhitchurch.home.insightbb.com/retent.gif

  • legendofleo

    I get where you’re coming from. Learning kanji from vocab seems to be a highly recommended method from a lot of sources. But for some reason even if I can read a word I would be very hard pressed to write it myself or read the same kanji in a different compound. It’s certainly not easy either way. Anyways, all the best with your studies.

  • Myrkul

    I can only speak for myself when I say, only looking at kanjis, not writing them by hand, doesn’t get me anything. :S First, I tried learning Kanjis just like I learn vocabulary – via flashcards. But I always was more the visual-type, so if I write down Kanjis, I learn them way more quickly and don’t mix them up so much. I recognize every stroke. When I just look at them on my flashcards, I often used to mix equal looking Kanjis up ( like 読 語 話 etc.).
    Saying this, I actually write on my cellphone app, so I can’t just copy what I wrote before.
    But you already mentioned that aspect, I know. :)
    Anyways, I really liked that post. You are right in many points. Keep making these helpful posts !

  • Admiral Awesome

    I definitely agree being a Textfugu member and all. I think Koichi’s psychology and down to earth style is what hooked me compared to other Japanese learning material. I signed up for a Japanese course this Fall, and now I’m not sure if I want to take it anymore. It definitely has it’s benefits like being in an environment to use the Japanese you learned, and it also doesn’t let you take long study breaks since you are forced to do homework assignments and such. The benefits of not taking it are harder to see short term, as I would replace it with another class I need, meaning I wouldn’t see the saved money until I graduated, and the same reasoning for time. I’m definitely given something to think about.

  • Madkracker

    best info site on learning japanese I’ve found thus far. I love MED. It’s definitely my kinda learning. Efficiency #1! :D Thanks! :3

  • http://thegreatwhiteisland.wordpress.com/ HokkaidoKuma

    Yesterday, I attended a teaching seminar and the speaker talked about a rule called the “18-minute Wall”. Basically, the speaker said that as adult human beings, we have attention spans that last 18 minutes. Anything more than that, our attention / interest start to dramatically decrease in whatever subject matter we are studying. In connection with studying in smaller doses, I suggest doing 15 to 20 min study sessions, take a short break, 15-20 min, break, etc.

    Shameless Self Promotion: I’ve begun my own little site for my own personal interest that covers similar subjects as Tofugu. It’s still its modest stages and just trying to build a bit of readership. If anyone’s interested please check it out. http://thegreatwhiteisland.wordpress.com/

  • Paulo Lagoá

    koichi, that’s a great article, thanks!

    Learning kanji can be frustrating because one has to learn and remember strokes, meaning and multiple readings. I try to be practical about this: I learn the strokes and the meaning and focus on the most common readings. Any other possible readings I believe I’ll learn while studying other things. If not, then probably that reading isn’t that much important, at least for the level I’m at so I’ll skip that (there’s the MED right there: focus on the essential to optimize study! :) ).

    I’m following the Genki books (I use those at my classes) so mostly I learn the kanjis in the order they present them, that way I’ll have some texts and exercises to help me stick the kanjis inside my head. But I’ll learn some new kanjis every now and then on other places.

    I do the repetitions system. I’ll focus on maybe 15-20 kanjis a week and whenever I have time, I write those down (without copying) and try to remember the readings while I do it. I also have some anki cards with kanjis and use other apps to do multiple choices exams with kanjis. So that helps.

    May I give you a suggestion for a future article? Where to find reading material for practicing japanese, specially for people on lower levels. I try to check out some websites but I find it frustrating because I end up realizing I don’t know enough vocabulary or kanjis to be able to read it. Maybe some kids books will help but it’s hard to find those online.

    Thanks!

  • Paulo

    Thanks for this! It’s helping. ah man! Why is Japanese so difficult.

  • http://www.tofugu.com koichi

    18-minute wall is an interesting idea – I’ve never heard of it before, but sounds just about right, time-wise.

    Lately I’ve been learning more about the things that affect attention (sleep, food, activity, etc). One thing I learned a while back was that people with less sleep are able to complete tasks just as well as people with more sleep. The difference is their attention. Having less sleep means you’re way less likely to have enough attention to even start a task (or continue it) even though in theory you can do the task just as well as someone with more sleep. I’ve noticed this more and more as I track my sleep (another thing I’ve been doing lately). When I have less sleep, I just find myself not doing my work over and over again, no matter how hard I try to make myself focus. But, if I take a nap and come back, everything’s A-ok (for a while at least).

    Anyways, point is, 18-minute wall sounds great… I wonder how we can stretch it, besides getting into “the zone”

  • http://www.tofugu.com koichi

    it’s not! It’s actually a very simple language compared to most others.

    The things that make it hard are the resources and poor teaching techniques.

  • Midnight Tea

    This might sound a little unusual, but my biggest problem with learning Japanese isn’t the content or the sheer workload. Sticking with WK and TextFugu has been a little bit difficult, but the biggest part is just kind of feeling… sad. Does that sound odd? I feel like not only should I be looking for a good study buddy, but I’m not sure how to start that. I’d also like to do something for a Japanese person if I could, so I’d feel less like I’m intruding. Sorry if that sounds weird.

    Again, it’s really hard to articulate what I mean. I’m only putting this out there to say that being chronically lonely can get in the way of learning something as inherently social as a new language, to the point I’d say it’s my biggest obstacle as a whole. But I have a lot of passion for both the language and the culture so I’ll try to keep at it.

    But I think establishing positive relationships associated with learning the language — whether you’re being diligent about it or not — could do a world of good for some people, maybe even to the point it counts as a “cheat”.

  • yoru.morino

    Yeah, I’ve done the “Write this kanji 100 times!” (almost haha) but it only worked for my exams. I forgot everything a week after. I have said many times “I hate kanji”, just because I forget it so easily. I guess I haven’t find the best way for me to really learn them. I don’t want to give up on kanji if I haven’t tried everything. Thanks for your article

  • RJTakeshi

    Certainly an excellent post, which will certainly help me fix up my Kanji learning routines, though I have one objection. You say to not bother learning how to write Kanji. Writing out symbols and shapes actually aids in recognizing them; your memory of them becomes stronger because you utilize more parts of your brain, according to the Journal of Cognitive Neuroscience article “Learning through Hand- or Typewriting Influences Visual Recognition of New Graphic Shapes: Behavioral and Functional Imaging Evidence”.

    I’d also like to note that some of the ways I’ve seen some people hand-write Kanji, particularly in a lot of comics, is so different from the way it’s normally written and typed that I often have trouble recoginizing/cannot recognize either a familiar Kanji nor its radicals; the ladder is especially frustrating because then I can’t use them to look up an unfamiliar Kanji. It seems to me that just knowing all the Kanji in their official forms does not necessarily mean you can read hand-written text.

  • ChairmanMeow

    I don’t agree. The mnemotechnic method works especially well with Kanji because it is an visual based system. I.e. it is easy to remember things when you connect them to associations, and it is easier to connect things to associations if the thing visually resembles the association. So for me, I learn the words/vocab a lot faster because, using mnemotechnics, I associate both the Japanese word and English word ( meaning) through the kanji. Learning the vocab would actually be as abstract as just pounding on the kanji, though perhaps a bit less frustrating. Using Mnemotechnics (or mnemonics as Koïchi calls it) is however by far the most efficient way of memorising both kanji and vocab.

  • Hinoema

    For you, yes. Then for you, the mnemonic method is a good method. This is just an alternative for those of us it doesn’t work so well for. I, for instance, remember the words to just about every song I’ve ever heard more than a few times, oddly enough. I tend to pick up accents if I listen to a certain speaker enough. And for whatever reason, It’s far easier for me to learn a word, which has an actual association, and learn the word bits (kanji) as i go along than to try to learn kanji and make words out of them. For me, things like ‘remembering the kanji’ just bounce right off. Some of us learn like that. Words first or kanji first- it depends on the learner. It’s all good- for someone.

  • Niki

    Technically, being fluent in a language means being able to 1. speak it 2. understand it 3. write it (writing does NOT include typing). If you don’t learn how to write kanji, you’ll never be fluent in Japanese. It puts you at a huge disadvantage. You won’t be able to leave people notes, write letters, keep a journal, or claim to be really “fluent” if you can’t write it.

    There are short cuts and then there’s just being lazy. Not learning to write kanji is lazy.

  • 名無し

    うん、うん、そうですね。
    Your problem is also my problem, is also likely the same underlying crippling issue as thousands of others.

    The longer you drift from the mainland the wider the ocean between. Until the point becomes wherein moving forward means sink or swim and not everyone has the courage to take such action. Though how to do reach out to people if you do not know what it is like to drift apart? To become invisible?

    Language may just be that bridge, if you allow yourself to build upon it.

  • kitsuki

    ya i would do that, and then still forget it for the quiz the next day.
    ive been trying to just review as many times during the day for short periods of time, that way its not really tiring and it seems to stick better. try using an app if you have a smart phone.

  • Richard Robertson

    One thing about this article is ‘The Grammar of Any Language’ picture. How does that help you in Japanese? Those are all English grammar rules… Or am I wrong and those are really how Japanese people talk?

  • Richard Robertson

    I agree! I find writing (on my smartphone app) a big helper in remembering the kanji, as apposed to flash cards. Somehow after a good 5 minute run through writing a group of kanji I remember them!