5 Reasons You Shouldn’t Major in Japanese (and 2 You Might Consider It)

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but majoring in Japanese might just be the worst thing you can do for your career. Sure you love Japanese and majoring in the language seems like the perfect way to spend your years in college, but is it really worth it? Do you know what you’re getting yourself into? Maybe it could work for you, but it’s certainly not going to work for everyone.

1. You Might be Better Off Studying on Your Own

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I think many would assume that if you major in a language, you’ll be pretty awesome at that language after four years of study. This is completely false. I had four years of Japanese language study at college, and even spent 10 weeks abroad studying in Kobe, Japan. However, by the time I graduated, my Japanese skill was about that of a preschooler, maybe worse.

This is not due to poor study habits or anything like that. I was a pretty good student, and I actually enjoyed my Japanese classes so I really tried hard and also tried to make the most out of them. But the thing is, most classroom Japanese just goes too slow and you really don’t learn all that much considering how long you study it. Of course this depends on the school and the curriculum, but I feel this to be true on the whole. I think I learned the most when I was actually in Japan just talking to people – not in the classroom doing lessons.

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Therefore, as far as learning Japanese goes, you might just be better off studying on your own, going at your own pace, and learning Japanese the way you want to, learning the Japanese that is helpful, interesting, and useful to you. At the very least, you should be supplementing your classroom Japanese with your own self-study. Use WaniKani, or Textfugu, or Anki, or just anything that works for you. You need to supplement. Do not expect to become fluent in Japanese just because you major in it.

Some people need the Japanese classes just to have that motivation and a definitive schedule for learning, and I can understand that. But if you’re really going to learn the language and have it be beneficial and worth it, you’re going to need to put in plenty of study time on your own, outside of the classroom.

To be honest, you really don’t need the classes at all and could be spending that class time learning something more valuable instead. But if you do find yourself in a Japanese classroom, make sure you make the most of it. Remember, your Japanese fluency is up to you and you alone.

2. Other Languages are More Useful, for Business Anyway

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In the 1980s and 1990s, learning Japanese was a great thing to do for business. Japan was starting its worldwide takeover, and knowing Japanese made you super-duper employable for the business. These days French, Chinese, Spanish, Arabic, and even Russian and Portuguese are all languages that rank higher than Japanese as far as being useful in the business world. Japanese just isn’t as valuable as it used to be.

Japanese is still very popular though, because, well, Japan is awesome. Some people want to learn Japanese because of all the cool anime, manga, and video games that come out of Japan. Other people just love the language and the culture and some even want to live there. I don’t blame them. But if you want to learn a language to be successful in the business world, you can certainly do better than Japanese.

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Now, I’m not trying to say that Japanese is worthless for finding a business job – not at all. There are plenty of jobs to be found at Japanese companies such as Honda and the like, I’m just saying that you might have better success with one of the other languages given the competitive job market these days. Plus languages like French and Spanish are easier to learn than Japanese, but more on that later.

3. Limited or No Jobs

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Speaking of finding jobs, the job market really sucks for Japanese majors these days. Sure you can teach English in Japan (which is BS, btw) through a program like JET or something, but where are the advancement opportunities there? Plus, you don’t even need to know Japanese for most of those teaching programs!

You could also teach Japanese, but you’re not going to be able to teach past your skill level, and as we covered in #1, the skill level of the average Japanese graduate probably isn’t that high. And since it’s not that high, you’re not going to be able to get jobs like being an interpreter, translator, or anything cool like that. Also, there really aren’t too many job opportunities for you if your Japanese is your only marketable skill, but again, more on that later.

4. Debt

student-debtStudent debt is a huge, rotten issue. Depending on your parents, your school, and if you have any scholarships or work during undergrad, you can graduate with no debt, or a lot of debt. If you graduate with a lot of debt, you’d be best off landing a job that will pay you a lot of money. Most likely, whatever job you get with your sub-par Japanese (as per #1) isn’t going to be all that great or pay that well.

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Being in debt sucks. Life and everything in general is just so much more stress-free and easy when you don’t have to worry about debt. I don’t know about you, but if I was in debt, I’d want to get out of it as soon as possible. Now, I’m not saying that you should do something you hate but pays well just to get out of debt – it’s just something to think about. Think of your future and plan accordingly.

5. It’s Hard

broken-brain“Japanese gone done broke my brain!”

I’m sure you’ve heard it before and I’m sure you’ll hear it again. Despite what some may say, Japanese is still pretty hard comparatively. I’ve studied both French and Spanish before, and let me tell you – it’s so much easier to get the hang of than Japanese, especially for a native English speaker. The biggest part for me is just the writing system. If it was just the speaking part, I don’t think it would be that bad. It’s the written Japanese that’s the killer.

Learning Japanese isn’t for everyone. If you’re going to try and conquer the problem mentioned in #1, you’re going to have to tough out how hard Japanese is to master and work hard on your own to become fluent. If you want a job, and a job that pays well, expect to work really hard at mastering Japanese. Unless you’re a language savant, it’s going to be a rough journey. Probably.

Times When Majoring in Japanese Would be Okay

approvedIn my opinion, there are at least two cases when majoring in Japanese would make sense and be okay for someone to do. Those two things are: you’re really good at it, or you major in something else too. First, let’s explore why being really good at Japanese would make majoring in it acceptable.

You’re Like, Super Good at It

really-goodIf you’re really good at Japanese and you love it so much that you study your brains out on your own time and really devote yourself to the language, there’s a good chance you’ll be super good at it by the time you graduate. Maybe you’ll even be so good you won’t have to deal with the intermediate plateau. Maybe you won’t even have to do anything. Good job.

Since you’re fluent, or near fluent in the language now, you’re much more employable. You can teach at a higher level, get jobs in the government, be a translator, an interpreter, or anything else of the sort.

Since most people aren’t at this level when they graduate, you’ll be head and shoulders above the rest, and that’s great. The only problem is – you don’t know if you’re going to be good at Japanese or have what it takes to really study your brains out for those four years before you actually start doing it. So like I said before, if you’re planning on going this route and you want to succeed and make money, be prepared to stick it out and really dedicate yourself to the language.

You Have Other Useful Skills

Mastery-CalculatorThe other reason why you might consider majoring in Japanese is if you already have another marketable skill, or if you’re majoring in something else (that’s useful) as well. This way, even if your Japanese isn’t that great when you graduate (like mine) you’ll still be able to find a job and get dat money, son.

My undergraduate journey was kind of a wild one (six years long with many major and minor changes), but by the end of it, I graduated with a double major in Japanese and Economics with a minor in Engineering. If I had just majored in Japanese, I would probably have a terrible job right now, but I don’t. I get to help out with all this Tofugu stuff, and for my day job I work as a Chemical Information Specialist. It’s pretty great.

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Majoring in economics gave me tons of writing practice, and I’m sure all that practice helped me land this position with Tofugu. Plus, I worked IT for three years in undergrad and I love computers, so it was really easy for me to get the hang of WordPress and all the other tech stuff going on behind the scenes here on Tofugu/Textfugu/WaniKani. If Japanese was all I was really good with, I probably wouldn’t be here.

Same goes for my other job. My computer skills and engineering mindset helped me land this position, and I don’t even use any Japanese at all. If all I knew was Japanese, I would most definitely not be where I am today. Plus, for most jobs I interviewed for after I graduated that had a Japanese requirement, my Japanese wasn’t good enough. Take Honda for example.

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After I graduated, I applied for a position with Honda at a large research and development facility. The position was an IT position, but this was no problem since I had three years of IT experience under my belt from working at my university. However, they also needed someone who could help troubleshoot the machines of the Japanese employees who would be more comfortable talking things out in their native tongue.

Everything went great until the Japanese part. It was actually really embarrassing. While I never really felt super confident in my Japanese ability, this really made it crystal clear that my Japanese just wasn’t up to snuff and that my college courses really didn’t prepare me for landing a job where Japanese competency was needed. Needless to say, I didn’t get the job. They even cited my lack of Japanese competency as the reason why.

In Conclusion

be-preparedSo the bottom line is: be prepared. If you’re not really, really good at Japanese and you don’t have any other useful skills, life after graduation might just be abysmal for you. So don’t put all your eggs into the Japanese basket unless you’re confident that you’re going to be the most bestest Japanese speaker that there ever was.

If you know you’re not going to be that awesome at Japanese by the time you graduate, do yourself a favor and develop some other employable skills as well, or double major, or at least make Japanese a minor and choose a more lucrative major. But that’s just my two cents. Everyone is different and opportunities and lucky breaks are bound to happen, so things might work out for you even if you don’t agree with how I feel. You never know!

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And just to be sure, I am in no way trying to put anyone down or make anyone feel bad and I’m certainly not trying to tell people to not follow their dreams. I’m just trying to get you to think about the best way to achieve them. I have some friends who really regret majoring in Japanese, so I’m just trying to get you thinking about things so the same thing doesn’t happen to you if you’re considering it. I want you all to succeed and be happy!


So tell me, are you majoring in/thinking of majoring in Japanese or have you graduated with a degree in Japanese already? How was finding a job? Share your stories, tips, and advice in the comments below and maybe you can help someone else out on their journey! Thanks!

  • brian

    Middlebury Summer Language School. Nuff said.

  • Marie

    I see the classes as more of a place for guidelines, practice, and questions. Um, well I’m not really sure what I want to translating. Anything from business, to government, to translating a textbook I’m okay with. A lot of people told me the UN is a good place for a translating job, so would foreign policy be good with that?(international affairs,international affairs/global study,international business, international economics) I don’t have a options to tailor to unfortunately; the only thing I’m really passionately interested in are languages and it probably wouldn’t be good idea to try and learn 3 languages at once :/

  • janegus

    I hate to agree with this, but I must admit I kept nodding my head along as I kept reading. I graduated last year with a double major in Japanese and Spanish. While I absolutely love Japanese, the job market could care less about that. I spent 3 years learning it in my university and a whole year studying abroad in Japan, but even with all that I was low-low-level conversation level and most people here expected a fluent speaker, I mean or else where was the proof I was studying it for 4 years. I must say I do regret majoring in only languages because although majoring in Spanish (since I live in SoCal & am already a native speaker) it still does not give me much leverage in the work force so finding a job has been pretty rough. I would advice anyone in the midst of still learning languages to really think things through as well and plan ahead, I certainly wish i had more… :/

  • Foreigner

    I think you forgot to cite your sources for this article; there are a lot of assumptions which do not reference real studies, research, or experience outside of your failed interview with Honda and 8 weeks in the country.

    With experience working for 5 different corporations in Japan (one being a leading web service and another being a consumer electronics giant), I can confidently say that Japanese corporations are more eager than ever to hire English-speaking employees. In fact, at two of the companies I have worked for, team meetings are conducted exclusively in English.

    Of course, this is not universally applicable. But increased trade with western economies and a smaller pool of new recruits than ever due to a sustained reduced birth rate, Japanese companies are becoming more and more progressive in this area.

    There most certainly has never been a more opportune moment to be an English speaker in Japan.

    For those who are worried: do your best, and don’t lose hope!

    P.S.: As with finding work anywhere, don’t expect everything to come to you. Don’t expect you’ll be successful in every interview or meeting. Network wherever you can. Visit events and trade shows, as that’s where the meaningful connections begin. Give and receive as many business cards as possible. It takes time to find work here, as business moves much slower than in Europe or North America, but it will happen, since there are many people who are actively looking for you. Ganbatte!

  • John

    I didn’t cite many sources as the majority of the article is just my own assumptions or my personal opinion or stuff that my friends have told me from their own experiences, haha. That’s awesome that you’ve been lucky enough to work for 5 different corporations in Japan. I’m really happy to hear you’ve been so fortunate. Since you’ve had so much luck with finding work over there, do you have any more advice for those seeking employment in Japan? Were you living there already when you got the jobs or were you living somewhere else when you got hired? I’m sure plenty of people (myself included) would love to hear more about it!

  • John

    Yeah, definitely. I can’t say if something else might be more suitable since I’m not sure of what’s offered at your school, but I’m sure there’s a guidance counselor of something available for you to discuss potential options with but to me, foreign policy or something sounds like a solid starting point. Good luck!

  • Evelyn

    I majored in Japanese and it was one of the worst decisions I’ve ever made. I’m immensely grateful for the fantastic teacher and the friends I made, but I’ve got a massive debt and I’ve wasted three years because I couldn’t handle the work load.

    Majoring in a language like Japanese, as well as my minor and any other papers I needed to make up points towards my degree meant I had so much work to do I ended up hating it. Plus, for Japanese I would have to put in something like 12 hours of study per week for quizzes worth 2%, loosing out on time to write that History essay, worth 25%.

    Studying in your own time has many more benefits, to me, than studying Japanese at Uni.

  • John

    Sorry to hear things didn’t work out for you :( If you could go back and do it all over, what do you think you’d do differently? Did you end up getting a job related to Japan in the end?

  • http://www.facebook.com/arden.tenjou Arden Tenjou

    Hey there. Not sure if this is applicable, and if not, no worries. I’ve got various qualifications and I’ve been translating for fan groups for several months. I’ve researched a bit but I just can’t seem to find a way to break into professional translation. I used to say I only wanted to do literary, but now I’m not so picky. Any tips? Anybody? :)

  • Luai

    For what it’s worth, Penn State University has a japanese program that really will make you fluent…. if you can stick with it. It’s not hard, it’s downright torturous. The work load is immense, and in order to keep up with the pace you absolutely have to supplement the homework with outside study, just so you can pass the tests. The teachers are extremely strict and their expectations are very high. I was majoring in it, and doing quite well, but the stress was so bad I had a complete mental breakdown and had to leave school for a while. I’m going back, but I won’t be majoring in Japanese anymore. I already have enough under my belt to complete the minor, so I’ll be doing that, and I had another major in linguistics underway, so that’s going to be my focus now.
    Anyway, my point is, there are some programs out there that will make you fluent, but the huge amount of work and stress may not be worth it for some people. Studying on your own lets you roll with life’s punches and put japanese on the back burner when other things need to take priority.

  • http://twitter.com/mngalaxy MnGalaxy

    I definitely agree with you. Not only Japanese, but also any other languages. They are just a tool, not for earning a living (except if you are superior) I love Japanese very much, and also take a Japanese class, but just for speaking and some grammar. Most of my study time is at home, and my main major is Medicine, too. I also learn English like other people

  • John

    That’s awesome that they have such an intensive program, but yeah like you said, it can be rough. I mean, the same can be said for any difficult major, but at least with languages there are easier (arguably more useful) choices than Japanese, but that’s not always relevant if you choose Japanese because you really love it and aren’t just looking for a handy language to know. Apparently my school had an intensive track that was supposed to be much more demanding and useful, but for someone like me with another major and a minor to worry about, it wasn’t something I was super interested in checking out haha.

  • mitsuho32

    I’m going to med school after my four years undergrad, and I only need about eight or so prerequisites, so I thought why not major in Japanese? It’s actually already helped me because the colleges I’ve applied to think a prospective Japanese major is an interesting student!

  • Gaijin2013

    due to start degree
    here in england in sep in business management and japanese studies, i would love to move to japan some day and have visited numerous times. within the course there is a full 12 months in japan which wil defo be the most beneficial part but i dont expect to be fluent at end, its more of getting a basic grasp to make it easier to continue with in situ learning when i graduate, plus our student loan system in england makes the debt part not so bad as we only have to pay it back when earning decent wage and even then only tiny installments

  • SaraWyatt

    The 15-year plan seems to be the one I’m on. :) I’m pretty cool with it. I’ll do the WWOOFing thing next.

  • Yuume

    I have a major in Mass Communication, so I can literally get jobs in anything from TV to magazines/newspapers and graphic design.

    I am however considering going back to school and majoring in Japanese. I’m right between a beginner and intermediate, and I’m working on my written Japanese at the moment.

    I would definitely put in the extra study time outside of class, but what do you study? Just grab lots of book and movies and speak to lots of people and practice as often as possible?

  • John

    Yeah, that’s actually another reason it’d be okay to major in Japanese, I think – if you’re planning to go to school for something else after. This was mostly geared towards those not doing that sort of thing, but I’m really glad to hear it’s working out for you so far! Best of luck with med school!

  • John

    I think people learn better on their own when they’re interested and have fun with the stuff they’re learning. What do you want to do with your Japanese? Whatever that is, pick media that is relevant to it. Do you need speaking practice? Or will you mostly be using it for reading and writing? We have lots of guides here on Tofugu for self-learners – everything from Japanese video games to Japanese dramas to Japanese e-books. For me, it was video games, manga, and J-dramas, but I’m mostly interested in the consumption of Japanese media. Just get into something that you believe will be interesting and/or useful to you and you’ll have no problem. Check out some of the guides we have on the site and if you have any questions or want advice, just let us know!

  • http://www.facebook.com/jen.obrien.58 Jen Obrien

    yes – go for it!

  • http://www.dandelion-cha.com/ Tampopo

    I took about four years of Japanese courses in college. Granted, it was community college, but I can say I learned far more in my own doing SRS with Anki, absorbing Japanese media and self studying. My teacher is one of the nicest people I’ve ever met, but the classes are just lacking. No one really completes the full course being able to speak a word. In the most advanced classes people couldn’t read basic kanji. The curriculum was just lacking. I believe that what you do on your own time is far greater than anything you could learn in a class. I thought about majoring in Japanese, but then I thought “what would I do with it?” I’m not interesting in translating, and I honestly not interested in working for a Japanese company. I majored in English. At least with that I can teach English in Japan. XD But I’ve pretty much determined that I just want to be able to communicate in Japanese, read it, write it and understand it. And of course i would like to love there some day. Learning a language has far more benefits than just financial benefits. I think the biggest benefit for me is to be able to speak and understand another language, which broadens my worldview.

  • Travis

    I’m still really unclear on what it means to major in “Japanese”. I double-majored in East Asian Studies & History, while I know other people who majored in Literature, or “Japanese Language & Literature,” others who did Linguistics, and others who majored in “Translation & Interpretation.” That last one seems the closest, I guess, to just majoring purely in learning a language, and yet, it comes with the crucial training in using that language as your chief marketable skill.

    In any case, admittedly, I cannot say that I have yet made a successful career for myself with my Japanese language ability. I’m not a successful businessman, or curator, or professional translator or anything. I’m a PhD student, at the moment. But, my language skills have certainly helped me get jobs or internships at numerous museums and other institutions, and, I have found that more often than not, I was one of the people in the room with the best language ability (outside of the native speakers, of course). One of these days, I’ll finally finish my PhD, and attempt to get a job at a museum, or some other sort of cultural institution, hopefully working in Japan, though not in any sort of corporate/business context, and while my language skills are still not 100%, still not necessarily fully up to the task of letting me get by in a Japanese office, I am optimistic about the potential future. (Plus, I do have a whole bunch of friends who have been successful in pursuing careers in Japan, using their Japanese language skills, in a wide array of fields. So, for those of you who are interested in being corporate drones, the possibility absolutely does exist!)

  • Marie

    Thank-you!

  • Chinchou

    I’m in an East Asian Studies minor program, and I’m in my third year of learning Japanese. I definitely agree that classes alone aren’t enough. It’s more like the classes supplement self-study rather than the other way around. For me, the classes are a good motivator for me to continue, but I agree on the point about marks being the main focus and not the learning.

    I attend Japanese language exchange meetings every week and visit my Japanese teacher’s office hours whenever I can. I make my own notes for self-study purposes, and I think it’s turning out well. I want to become a translator in the long run, and I hope to teach English in Japan for a while to be able to learn the language naturally so that I can make up for whatever I still need for proficiency after my last year of college. My main major program is Linguistics, and I also hope to get TESOL certification so that I know what I’m doing when I’m teaching. I’ve also had a bit of a Commerce background, so I think that I can sort of use that to fall back on.

    Great article.

  • Hikari

    I’m majoring in both Japanese and Economics. I have to spend 2 years studying Japanese language. The rest is Economics and Asian Studies. Our curriculum mainly focuses on reading and translating, so we can barely say some sentences in Japanese if you ask me.
    That’s why I’ve spent a year as an exchange students in Japan. I got better at speaking, but I’m still far away from being fluent. So I’m really happy that I still have Economics as my second major to rely on. I’d like to work at a Japanese company in my home country(there’re many in my region), but I’m not quite optimistic…

  • brianlacour

    I’m learning japanese on my own too. I’m only 15 been studying everyday a few hours for a few months. I know hiragana and katakana and i also use the pimsleur approach while I’m studying and writing kanji. What i wanted to ask is do you guys have any tips for a novice like me on kanji or japanese in general

  • http://en-gb.facebook.com/GreenFox59 Michael Warren McDonald

    Very much so. My statement of course applies to most people that go through college. I’m sorry to hear that your language course didn’t offer much in a wide range of skill. That puzzles me, but then again, the college that I am going to pretty much requires that each course somehow reaches outside of itself.

  • Flora

    If you’re learning kanji, spring for “Tadashii Kanji Kakitori-kun” ($45.00 on Yes!Asia). It’s a kanji-tutor for the Nintendo DS that has become the love of my Japanese life.

    But since it’s a Japanese game meant for native speakers, all of the instructions are in Japanese (mostly hiragana, but all the kanji have furigana, so it’s cool). Unless you’ve got a mad vocabulary, I’d suggest going through the many tutorial videos on Youtube so you know what to do.

  • Admiral Awesome

    I have to agree. I have many friends majoring in useless majors and I just hope they make it work. Things like Philosophy and History. There’s few jobs and unless you couple it with other majors it’s totally useless. I’m learning Japanese on my own, and I play the piano as well, though I would never major in music. My major right now is Software Engineering. I know that the kind of discipline I can gain in this major will be useful in almost any kind of job.

  • kaeritakunattayo

    Do you think this is only the case in America?

  • roger mcmuffin

    majoring in east asian studies. im military so its free. why the hell not.

  • John

    This was written mostly from an American point of view, so that’s what it’s geared towards. The feedback I’ve been getting from other countries seems to be about half and half. Debt works differently in most countries and other countries have different unemployment rates than the US right now, too.

  • John

    Well military counts as an additional skill I think, so go for it! Can’t beat free.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1550596562 Alexa VanDemark

    I’m a major in East Asian Studies at my university. Your cons of the Japanese major have truth, I agree, though I also think it depends on the person. I chose EAS over Japanese because I wanted to learn a bit about Japan’s neighbors too, but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t focused on Japan. I’m in 300-level Japanese now, and I love it. But you’re right, John – to be really good at a language in college, you HAVE to spend personal time outside of class to get better. I use WaniKani myself, and read ahead in our textbook, but if someone wants to leap into the career field with Japanese, they really need to be above average to get anything.
    I hope to do JET after I graduate, and once my time with that is done, hopefully I’ll figure out what to do from there.

    But what I think is most important for anyone pursuing a major of any kind is to pursue one they love. If you love what you do, you’ll never work a day in your life. So if Japanese gives you a super thrill like nothing else, then do it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1652419195 Travis Dove

    I’m going to major in International Relations and take Japanese (also want to do Korean).

  • Grace

    Hi John. I’m Italian and I’ve been studying Japanese on my own for some months now. It is really fun to me, it’s something that makes my brain flip. Spanish is like that too. I remember four years ago when I desperately wanted to study Languages at college..but my parents said no.

    And when I asked why they just told me that it is not possible to get a job knowing only languages. Now, of course the sentence is not completely true but there is a 99% of truth in it. Especially in this moment, especially (I guess) in Italy, where I live.
    What I wanted you to know is that I’ve been fighting their choice for like three years (I’m currently studying european and international law) just to discover with great pleasure and joy after a while what you wrote so truthfully in this post. This confirms once again what every kind of people keeps telling me from some years! Thank you so much.

  • Andy

    I graduated from ucla with a Japanese B.A. but it’s definitely not enough. going to law school in the fall to better the chances of a successful career, possibly in international or entertainment law

  • Mao Mao

    (This is a very lengthy post, & most of it is about pursuing an academic life in Japan)

    Hi,

    First, I truly agree with what John have said here.

    For me, I happened to start following animes aired in their original Japanese dub on a satellite channel. Even before that, when I was around 7 or 8 I already begun to read the Doraemon tankobon which was translated to my native language, the Malay language (Hi, I’m a Malaysian BTW). So you could say I’m deeply influenced by (or maybe hopelessly in love with) Japanese cultures since then, until now.

    So, one day when I was looking around in a bookstore during a school trip, I walked through the language section & happened to saw several Japanese Language guide books & thought to myself, hey why not. It WAS EXPENSIVE for me back then, I was 14, & mum usually nagged me for spending much on language books. But it wasn’t for naught.

    I love it so much, and decided to study, work & live in Japan no matter what. After that I bought another book for learning katakana & hiragana, & managed to learnt them all in 2 weeks. I was 16 then. & then school ended, came in the university application period.

    I also attended a 10 weeks beginner Japanese Language course before entering university, but to my dismay, I already learnt by myself all the things they taught in the lessons. Majority of the students in the lessons were newly exposed to Japanese, causing them to pick up everything at a slow pace, leading the senseis to even opted not to spend much time with writing system, but focusing on the grammar structures & vocabularies instead.

    It depleted me because I aimed to strengthen my kanji, but they didn’t even taught any katakana or hiragana. They just showed this is how katakana looks like, this is how hiragana looks like, that was it. But one of the senseis apparently majored in Economics at a Japan’s university, & not really purely from a Japanese language background, but still could manage to become a Japanese Language teacher. So it kinda opened up my eyes more, to realizing, that there are more than just Japanese Language study, in order to reach my dream.

    During the university application period, the decision whether to opt for the Japanese study course or not, was among the hardest in my life. I finally decided not to, primarily because they required the applicants to take part in an interviewing session, & I didn’t thought my anime+guide books only level was enough to pass it. Also, I started to think that I could tackle it by my ownself, in my own way, at my own pace & so why not, opt for a field, that I could only experience while enrolling in an academic institutions like universities?

    And so, I got myself majored in Ecology & biodiversity. Hell yeah, it was FUN. I gotta go to lots of fieldworks with my university mates, works with lots of professionals in ecology field, & even though I ended up extended a year because I didn’t satisfied enough credit hours to graduate in time, I’m satisfied. To kinda at least officially show that I still have beginner Japanese language skill, I took a Japanese subject while in university, & also took the level N5 Japanese Language Proficiency Test (JLPT). I passed the test, got the certificate, & also got an A printed next to the Japanese subject on my university’s academic transcript.

    And then, a phone call from mom, said that she saw a notice on the education ministry website, saying that there’s a scholarship application being offered to pursue postgrad studies in ANY field, at any university in Japan. It goes without saying that I applied for it, though I was really being negative about it; the deadline was less in two weeks, & I have to obtain a recommendation letter from my supervisor, write my study plans & stuff, & it was really annoying when they even asked for the exact date of when I admitted to primary school, to what my siblings’ jobs are. But I somehow managed to get through… I pressed my supervisor so much, that she even recommended me for our university’s postgrad sponsorship program as an alternative.

    As you might guess, I won the scholarship. What I can say is that, they will NOT ONLY weigh your Japanese Language ability, they also care about how much you really understand about Japan, your familiarity with the cultures, how the community functions, & current issues surrounding the country. In simpler words, your knowledge about Japan. During the interviewing session, I gave my all, & spoke all the Japanese I know.

    But it is not all sweet and yays all the time. If you are familiar about Japan’s academic environment, you will aware that it is very very very exam oriented. Everything revolves around kibishii exams. Although I am already aware of this, when the true reality hit me, it hit me hard. Putting emotions aside, there shouldn’t be any problems, but I realized I’m a human too & have emotions, & so I was constantly mentally exhausted. This was especially when I was still enrolling at the Japanese Language Education Centre, where they really grind you, not with just Japanese Language, but also to make sure you are prepare enough to face the entrance examinations, and also all the procedures concerning them. 8 new kanjis & kanji test everyday. But again, it wasn’t all for naught, as I get more familiar to Japanese Language, & it became like a second nature to me.

    Luckily for me, the foundation, that provvides me the scholarship, didn’t just give me the money and I’m on my own. We are like family; we have gathering every month, & talk about our experience, feelings, & how we spent the month. They already guide us on the preparation for entering the university, e.g. contact the Profs, to become a Research Student (研究生) or not etc etc. even before coming to Japan, & so I’m not that lost.

    And things got even better when I got myself joining the current lab, after stopping from going to the language school. And double lucky enough to can even talk about sailormoon etc etc pokemon with my sensei., while many others are not that friendly. It helps, especially in critical moment like now when I’m really nervous, I mean like kinchou sugi (緊張すぎ) for the upcoming entrance examination, but all my labmates & sensei are very supportive, & even said they can’t wait to hold a welcome party for me. In case you want to know, yes, I’m still doing ecology. :D

    Other stuffs are out of topic in regards to this article, so I’ll end my lengthy post here. & needless to say, of course I love my mom more like zillion billion trillion more, like infinitely more. LOL

    To summarize it:
    1) Think whether you could tackle the language on your own or not.

    2) Attending Japanese language course or school (even the ones in Japan) might not gonna be so fruitful & all happy-go-lucky-pikachu-kawaiiness whatever as you thought it may be. A purely language academy might be really fun like sliding over the rainbow (gosh why the overly descriptive writings) but not really for the one who aims to prepare you for entering university/college/course school (専門学校=senmon gakkou).

    3) You might obtain useful information, see chances & opportunities, from the courses you attended. The students of the 10 weeks Japanese course I went prior to entering university as undergrad, was mainly consisted of Japanese companies sending their staffs there. And not just ordinary workers, but managers, engineers & bosses. I got a job offer phone call from them to become an interprator/translator for their company, but I was already doing my 1st semester for undergrad at that time.

    4) Scholarship offers are being advertised everywhere in the internet. Make effort with Google. Not just scholarship from giant companies, but also even from the universities themselves.

    5) Most (if not, all) of the professors here in Japan knows English. Just email them. They will most definitely reply you, so you will not be left hanging for any definite answers. One Prof. was kind enough that he said, though my field of interest is different from his main research theme, but because both of them are somehow related, he attached some academic papers in his email to see whether I’m interested in somehow change my theme a bit to match with his.

    6) A bit related to point (5), it doesn’t mean you really need to know Japanese language through and through, to get place in school/college & land jobs here in Japan. While they are happy to know & most probably accept you if you can speaks like a Japanese, in general they really like to speak about their own language & cultures to incoming foreigners, & they rarely could really have the chance to do that, & have their own experience of cultural exchange. What really matters is, whether you really got the skills and abilities needed for whatever things you wish to apply to. But of course, there is also usual cases like John’s experience with Honda above. So, my advice is, avoid expecting too much, yet avoid holding so much onto the must-get-myself-to-speak-like-a-real-Japanese idea too.

    7) You majors/minors at universities/colleges doesn’t necessarily determines your future career. Met a friend here in Japan, who also did biology, but now working with an airline company managing flight schedules. Another one became a software programmer. So, I advice to not limit your own self with only the things you could see in front of you.

    OKAY, that’s all I guess. Hope this will help.

    Good luck!

  • Kevin G

    Great post! I’m studying Computer Science and Japanese currently at my university. Hoping for the best! Gotta keep your head up!

  • http://mistersanity.blogspot.com Jonadab

    Clearly the thing to do is to quadruple major in Japanese, all-grade music education, pre-med, and law, with a double minor in public speaking and quantum mechanics. Yes, you can get your bachelor’s degree in only eleven years, and only three of your majors (plus one of your minors) will be completely worthless on the job market without a graduate degree! Yay!

  • Riley

    While I understand some of the reasoning behind not majoring it, I can’t fully agree that they’re legitimate reasons. To me, it sounds like poor choice in university and lack of support for students. I’m in my fourth year, and the curriculum has almost entirely shifted away from language learning to everyday use, with multiple choices of reading, speaking, and writing courses with the sole intent being improving students everyday conversational use and overall fluency. Also, the Japanese department holds multiple career fairs throughout the academic year, and students quite often have no trouble finding employment after their undergrad if they choose not to go to grad school.

    So, to me, it shouldn’t be, reasons you shouldn’t major in Japanese, rather reasons you should really do your homework about where to major in Japanese.

  • anonymous

    haha, I completely agree with the idea that majoring Japanese is not worthy for “jobs” even as a Japanese! But, I think whichever you chose to major, it’s hard to master, so I just wish never give up!^^

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=620066105 Aime L. Calderon Herrera

    In my country we don’t have things as majors or minors, it’s just one choice. If I wanted to I could’ve probably picked two careers and study a couple of years more to acomplish it. So Japanese is just a hobbie and economics was my career choice. I studied 2 years of japanese and had to drop out, so far I just know things like how to say my name or ask where the bathroom is. =P. I dedicated more time to english in my youth and it has been more useful.

  • ryo

    Other skills. [Insert League of Legends mastery page] wwwwwwwwww

  • Silvia

    I’m one of the crazy ones that majored in Japanology with a minor in… Japanology, twice. So I have both my bachelor and my master in Japanese Studies. How great is that? I must say though that we don’t pay huge amounts of money to be able to study here in Austria, so you can basically study what interests you without being broke for the rest of the life.

    So can you find a job with just that? If you’re a sensible, half-way computer-savy human being, yes you can. But you’d have to be willing to move to where the jobs are. When I started they were all in Vienna, the frontier to Eastern Europe, now they’re mostly in Germany as it’s all EU and there’s no need to be close anymore.

    So what did I do? I ended up with JALPAK (the travel bureau segment of Japan Airlines) and from there I ended up in the tourism industry. Now I’ve gone solo and I’m currently opening up my own travel bureau specialized in Japan. I could have found a job in the industry without problems, but I wanted to do this. I guess it’s expected from someone who majored and minored in Japanese Studies?

  • abu

    Hi John.

    I think you’ve got strong points there and I agree with you. It’s just that I also think it might depends on the place you’re living (or planning to work) as well. Maybe in your case, as you mentioned, “majoring in Japanese might just be the worst thing you can do for your career” but in my case, it’s the other way around.

    By the way, I’m a second year student majoring in Japanese (only, no minor or second major) at a university in Malaysia. I haven’t graduated yet, so I will share my opinion based on my observation and also the experience of my seniors who have already graduated and are currently working.

    1) In my country, majoring in Japanese will give you a hell lot of benefits. Recently there are more and more Japanese companies in Malaysia in this leads to the demand for Japanese speaking local Malaysians. The fact that there is only one university in Malaysia offering a degree in Japanese language and linguistics (which has only 9-11 students every intake which is once a year) really benefits us because we have the least competition in getting job because the jobs offering are more than the number of Japanese major students graduating every year. All of my seniors who have graduated (except those who furthered their studies) got their job within one or two months after they graduated (in Malaysia, most of the students start job hunting only after they graduate) and all of them are currently working at Japanese companies as translator and interpreter, public relations officer, human resource manager, account executive and personal assistant just to name a few. Of course we have many Malaysians who went to study in Japan (obviously they have better Japanese than us), but almost all of them were majoring in engineering related field so it’s just natural for them to work in their related field of studies.

    2) Our syllabus plays the main role in our Japanese proficiency. I’m not sure about the syllabus for Japanese major at other universities but for my university, basically the syllabus is like this:

    i) The first 3 semesters (the whole first year and the first semester of the second year), we only study Japanese intensively 4 hours a day from the very basic level since most of us have zero basic in Japanese. We have no other major courses within this period. By the end of the third semester, we are expected to have reached at least higher intermediate level.

    ii) Starting from the fourth semester until the last semester which is the seventh semester, we will be taking all the core courses for Japanese major such as Japanese literature, Japanese linguistics and Japanese civilisation which will be taught fully in Japanese (except for translation course where we will be using Japanese, Malay and English). So basically we use Japanese everyday since 80% of our classes are taught in Japanese (the other 20% are the elective courses). Of course it’s very hard, that’s why only those who can keep up with all the heavy courses taught fully in Japanese can survive till the end. That being said, those who graduate for certain have an absolute fluency in Japanese.

    iii) All of us have the opportunity to go for a summer program in Japan and half of us will have another opportunity to go for a one year exchange program in Japan. It helps us greatly in improving our Japanese proficiency.

    Again, I’m not saying that you’re wrong, but I believe that there are still some places in the world (hopefully not only my place) where majoring in Japanese is actually a very good thing and might be the best you can do for your career.

    P/S: I’m sorry for my bad English >.<

  • abu

    I’m agree with all your points, especially your 7th point. By the way, I’m also from Malaysia and I’m currently majoring in Japanese language and linguistics at UM.

  • Japonesca

    Hi, John.

    After more than 20 years since I started studying Japanese, I think you are very right on what you are saying.

    In 1997 I passed The Japanese Proficiency Test in Japan, and I wouldn’t get that without my will applied to self-study.

    Now I’m blogging my work in spanish about the elementary school kanjis in Japan, that’s the way I got it, and that’s a really long way, but for japanese children is the same.

    Congratulate you for your posts, I’ve already suscribed.

  • Craig Tallentire

    The difficulty comment- Japanese isnt the easiest language, Spannish probally beats it there, I know Swedish does for sure, but Japanese is definitely easier than French.

    A big point that is being missed here is the value in a degree. Getting a degree in something useful isnt the be all and end all, most people get degrees in relevant crap, the key is just to get a degree. If you take a degree in something easy like a language then you will be able to get high grades and qualify for better graduate jobs, particular weighed up against taking something ‘useful’ that youre not really into.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mitsumasaaabe Mitsumasa Abe

    It is sad; but as a Japanese, I cannot deny it…

    (´・ω・`)

  • Shaunie

    May I ask what university this is? it sounds interesting.