Kanji Amnesia And Why It’s Okay To Forget Kanji

In a couple hours at 1:40pm Pacific Time, I’ll be live on BBC Radio (sorry, no idea which one… people tell me it’s probably #4, though) talking about “Character Amnesia” (or for us Tofugu-folk, “Kanji Amnesia”), so I thought a good way to get my ducks in a line would be to write a post about it… That way, hopefully, I won’t forget what I want to talk about it.

What Is “Character Amnesia” (Kanji Amnesia)?

Basically, people in Japan (and China) are using computers, phones, and other electronic devices so much that they’re forgetting how to write their kanji. Thanks to these things, there’s almost no reason to write something using your hands. Think about it, when’s the last time you hand wrote anything? For a lot of you, I’m guessing it was either to sign a receipt (or you just can’t remember). The world is revolving around our phones and computers, which means we’re typing… a lot.

It’s the exact same thing with Japanese, but with Japanese, you’re taking something really a lot more complicated to write (kanji) and making it a lot simpler. All you have to do nowadays is write the sounds that make up a word in Japanese, and *poof!* automagically your electronic device shows you the most likely kanji match to the thing you wrote out. If it’s not the first match, there’s usually quite a few others which you can choose from. This means the emphasis of being able to write kanji is nearly nonexistent in real life. All you have to do is be able to recognize a kanji and be able to read it. Literally half the work of written communication has vanished, and I think it’s awesome.

For those of you who don’t have much experience with kanji (if you want to learn, check out the kanji section of TextFugu for a way to learn kanji that actually makes sense), here’s a good parallel. With English (I know this from experience), spell check has made it so I don’t have to know how to spell things. Misspelled something? Red underline tells me to change it (thanks!). Once I start writing by hand, I definitely notice all the things I don’t know how to spell (anymore) that I probably learned in middle school. Take this example and multiply it by a billion, and you have the Kanji/Japanese issue. They can recognize the kanji. They can read the kanji. They can type the kanji… but, when it comes to writing a lot of kanji by hand, expect there to be a lot of mistakes and omissions.

To Be Honest, This Is Awesome

A lot of old school Japanese teachers will probably tell you otherwise. I was one of them not too long ago, until I started writing TextFugu, and started seeing what I could remove to make the lessons simpler. When I asked “what is pretty unnecessary 90% of the time?” I realized that the ability to write kanji by hand was one of them. So, I cut that requirement so that people can focus on much more important things (like being able to read… and type the kanji).

Even Japan is admitting to this. They’re going to add nearly 200 kanji to the required kanji learning list for kids because so many kanji have become a lot more common through use of typing the characters (i.e. a lot of characters that were tough to write by hand, but became common because they’re really easy to type out). On top of that, Japan is totally a cell-phone culture. Everyone seems to have a cell phone, and everyone seems to be typing away at it. It’s just so much easier to communicate in this way, and handwriting is becoming a thing of the past.

So, in summary, I don’t think this is a bad thing, especially for language learners out there. It just (once again) supports that the ability to hand write kanji is becoming increasingly unimportant. That means you can start focusing your limited efforts (everyone has limits, so you need to make the most of them!) on doing much more important things, whatever that may be. I think that’s amazing news. You have permission to spend your time learning things that you’ll be able to use a lot more commonly :)

So what do you think? Any of you experienced this? I’ve definitely become terrible at hand writing kanji (embarrassingly terrible, actually), but on the other hand, it’s so easy to type kanji out that I have almost no reason to hand write anything. The cool thing? When I do have to hand write something, I just type it up first so I can use that as a reference… I hope any impending apocalypses don’t take away my cell phone, or I’ll be screwed.


[Header Image]

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/LFR46LQC2E7T6BAUVAJH6MIMJI Sadasjh Kkjh

    Wonderful.

    Share a website with you ,

    http://www.tnta.us

    Believe you will love it.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/LFR46LQC2E7T6BAUVAJH6MIMJI Sadasjh Kkjh

    welcome to:

    |▌== http://www.tnta.us ==

    Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33

    Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $33

    Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&g) $33

    Tshirts (ed hardy,lacoste) $14

    Jean(True Religion,ed hardy,coogi) $30

    Sunglasses(Oakey,coach,gucci,Armaini) $12

    New era cap $15

    Bikini (Ed hardy) $20

    and so on..

    if you like to order anything you like.
    More details, please just browse our website
    Quality is our Dignity; Service is our Lift.
    enjoy yourself. thank you!!

    YOU MUST NOT MISS IT!!!

    == http://www.tnta.us ==

  • Apple
  • Apple

    We offer Ugg Classic Mini Boots 5854 Sand $ 51.8,UGG Classic Tall Boots 5815 $ 84.8,UGG Classic Short Boots 5825 $ 82.8.Read more:www.boots88.com.

  • Budonging

    ======== Website: Http: / / http://www.shoescloth.com =====

    Hello! Let’s dress it! Tell you a good place to shop
    Fashion, avant-garde, personality, sexy, mature and you go from here!

    Jordan shoes
    Brand Jersey
    Clothing and jeans
    Hats and scarves
    Bags and purses
    Brand belt
    Brand glasses
    Brand watches

    ======== Website: Http: / / http://www.shoescloth.com =====

  • Budonging

    ======== Website: Http: / / http://www.shoescloth.com =====

    Hello! Let’s dress it! Tell you a good place to shop
    Fashion, avant-garde, personality, sexy, mature and you go from here!

    Jordan shoes
    Brand Jersey
    Clothing and jeans
    Hats and scarves
    Bags and purses
    Brand belt
    Brand glasses
    Brand watches

    ======== Website: Http: / / http://www.shoescloth.com =====

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z4R2RDNC32QYJDZZ352CMK7OBQ Charles Darwin

    pinyin / Hanzi: this issue will not be decided by Humans but by computers / cell phones / internet.

    Moore’s Law: Doubling computing power in about 2-years means computing power will reach Infinity.
    Infinity in computers, storage and Fiber optics.

    Computers have Digital memory. Computers can “remember” forever.

    IN due, No will such old archaic system of writing. Kids in greece write Greek in ABC.
    world will use ABC
    0123456789
    ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQ
    1010101010101: digital system
    All you Need.
    Computers will answer this question?

  • logicaust

    If you can’t explain or do something, but are able to recognise it, you have succeeded in locking it into your tacit knowledge. However, you are unable to activate any codification into explicit knowledge.

    This is not good, and I’ll explain why below as best I can.

    Koichi advocates that it is not important to be able to recall kanji when writing, so long as one is able to read it, speak it and see it. I think the argument is far stronger than what it used to be, but I disagree with the logic.

    I guess I look at language (and knowledge in general) this way: ‘Abstract’ and ‘Concrete’. In terms of language, abstract would be speaking (output) and listening (input); concrete is writing (output) and reading (input). Just to clarify, I say abstract and concrete because the first two skills are not tangible (sure, you are record them etc, but essentially they don’t take physical form; they are a communication of concept(s)/idea(s) between people).

    One can take this argument, in my opinion, and say that as long as understanding/comprehension is the goal, only listening and reading are truly needed. However, that leaves the problem of communication of one’s own ideas (i.e the codification of one’s tacit knowledge to explicit knowledge).

    Electronic devices, computers and the like have become ubiquitous; this is an indisputable fact of life. But do we still write by hand? Certainly less so than before, but it’s a fact that we do. Should we continue to, when we are increasingly turning to typing instead of writing by hand? I think we should. An example of why would be Latin.

    Because people believed that it was not necessary to try and learn spoken Latin, but concentrate on writing and reading, we have essentially busted Latin; we know only have ‘New Latin’, Old Latin has been lost to time. Coptic is another language example (which is now essentially dead) where this lack of explicit knowledge in its adherants led to the gradual demise of the language itself (sure, some scholars still know it, but you get what I’m saying).

    If we look at language as a set of input/output skills and apply Koichi’s argument, it is perfectly acceptable to state that only listening and reading are important. Speech can be codified into sound via software, which is steadily improving (Google has this basic capability nowadays). I posit that if a person were to adhere to this, for a period of say one year to just listening and reading, they would become very good listeners and readers, but their ability to recall tacit knowledge and express this in speech would be lower than before; perhaps they may even regress to using the vocabulary of a person much younger than their age group (there is some anecdotal evidence of this from an immersion adherant, Chris Lonsdale; if interested, his book is called ‘The Third Ear”, ISBN 10:988-98887-0-X).

    But hey, we place value on speech; we can use it to sing, we can use tone and pitch it to convey internal messages and feelings, we can use speech to activate and hone our listening skills (for example, I like to speak Japanese out loud to myself for the purposes of self-correction and fluency). No way we’d want to give up speech, right? Thought so.

    So why doesn’t writing get the same sort of love? Is it simply a case of it not having the same kind of reasons for liking it as speech? Well, I can think of a few for the fence sitters:

    Environmental reasons. Electricity will usually be at the expense of the earth’s natural resources, unless you are fortunate enough to run/charge products from renewable energy. Running your laptop/desktop all day produces a significant carbon footprint. “But pen ink and trees harm the environment as well blah blah blah”. Well, sure; which is worse, though?

    Cognitive thinking. Your synapses are the key to knowledge, and for skills that are used often your synapses can work efficiently. Referring back to the point about tacit and explicit knowledge, if your synapses are used to you utilising a skill in one set way, the pathway for that will be very good; introduce a new level of complexity and the synapses will certainly try, but unless that skill is used often, you have little chance of being able to complexify that skill. It’s simple neuro-science.

    School and Test assessment. When you are confident that you will never be asked to write an essay during class, quit writing; be my guest. When you get to the point that you can’t recall your 画数, or you can’t differentiate between your sanzui and your tehen, I’ll play you the world’s smallest violin.

    Last reason is rhetorical: why do lots of smart phones and new(er) electronic dictionaries have touch screen input? Maybe when we see something and can’t recall it, we can…

    I hope this explains why writing is an important life-long skill that won’t become the appendix of language learning. And I appreciate the irony of me typing this onto a computer.

    -logicaust.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NTQZJZX3QRJTCGFR3RM4AVPO3Q Xin Xin

    Good news: this website === http://www.buyshopping.us ===

    we has been updated and add products and

    many things they abandoned their increases

    are welcome to visit our website.

    Accept cash or credit card payments, free transport.

    You can try oh, will make you satisfied.

    ===== http://www.buyshopping.us ======

  • aurickandrien

    Really though, whilst technology might be making it easier to get by without writing kanji, it should also be making it easier to learn how to write kanji as well – all you would need is an SRS with input via touchscreen.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=694025092 Emma Selwyn

    That comment made me laugh SO hard!

    Unfortunately, I feel like I have to hand-write them a bajillion times for kanji tests our teacher gives us. Thankfull they’re only every three or four weeks, but I still hate them with a vengeance as I can barely remember anything I’ve learnt by the time I get to the classroom, and when it comes to converting hiragana to kanji…. FORGET. IT.

    However, I can do everything else [on a rather small scale].

  • http://kylheku.com/tankan Kaz

    Writing the kanji reinforces memorization.

    The Japanese have been through nine grades of learning the Kanji (which included writing). Forgetting how to write is different from never learning to write.

  • http://kylheku.com/tankan Kaz

    I’d like to add that, those kanji that I practiced writing, I remember very well. I believe that if you just memorize kanji by looking at them, you don’t properly internalized the exact features of the kanji; you’re just training your brain to responding to a pattern in an incomplete way so when you see a kanji that you know, you can recognize it from among other kanji that you also know, like recognizing a picture, or someone’s face. But if you see an unfamiliar kanji very similar to one you know, you will easily mistake them! Your brain just wants to fit the pattern to something you already know, and skimp on the details. Though I wrote a program for memorizing large numbers of kanji, I don’t recommend sole reliance on that method. It’s just an aid.

  • Musoken

    Quite a fascinating article…I wonder if the section of the article “even Japan is admitting to this,” is only taken from the large cities of Japan like Tokyo and Osaka. Although I don’t live in Japan, only been there a few months to a time recently, I can tell that there is a resurgence of interest, a scaling back of focus-if you will, with the whole country of Japan in my experience. Many are going back to learning how to write kanji or take up sumi-e, or even ancient martial arts that may have no impact on today’s society like Kyudo. I think it is wonderful that kanji can easily be typed or written on the internet or mobile phones, yes I do. But the method, the art of writing kanji is more than just language.
    And this is where those old school teachers of the japanese language fall into, imho. It is the discipline inherent in writing/learning to write kanji that is important and what these teachers want the students to take with them…all without telling them. In other words, they won’t say there is great disciplinary significance in the process of learning to write kanji, but in time you will figure it out and be thankful for it. Much like the 8 year old who is forced to learn to play the piano till they’re 14. They may never use that skill for work or even monetary advancement in the future. But looking back, that 8 year old kid who is now an adult is grateful for the discipline he/she got and the knowledge about reading musical notes, analyzing/interpreting melodies, greater appreciation for music, etc. Of course this all boils down to the piano teacher. One does not reflect upon the harsh & boring piano lessons one got if the teacher does not cultivate the proper instruction and learning experience.
    And the same can be said for kanji. My Japanese teacher was very thorough in her lessons and didn’t just explain the language, she explained the history and the cultural impact for most of the information she passed down. In a sense, I would’ve had the same reaction as most have posted from this article, such as relative happiness at the “de-emphasis” on learning to write kanji, had I not learned from my teacher.
    Once again, I find it wonderful how easily it is to write kanji within this electronic/online writing era, however, I do not agree that there should be a scaling back in learning to write this part of the language because people will be losing more than they think they will be gaining. And to think that you will free up your time to learn something else is admirable and should be commended, as long as you do go out and do something new or learn something new.
    “Lessen your needs,
    Think positive thoughts
    and do good deeds…”

  • lolwut

    Ahahaha.

  • Ender13

    I’ve found that writing kanji makes them stick in my brain. Taking notes (in English) helped me remember material in school, and I suspect that getting more parts of my brain involved is the trick. I may not need to write kanji often, but if writing them now will help me be able to read Japanese sooner, I’m all for it.

  • Anonymous

    Your satisfaction is our eternal pursuit.

    ( http://www.yessoso.com )

    We specialized in the exportation of sport shoes and other products(clothing, bag,sunglasses,watches,belts,etc )which have great enjoyed popularty in the world market Many of our goods are on sales ,we can guarantee the crediblity by Pay-pal and delivery time .we would like to make a long termship.

    1)Name : The perfect gift.
    2)Grade : AAA+
    3)Package : in original boxes
    4)Color : various
    5)MOQ : 1 pc
    6)Payment : Pay-pal/Western Union / Credit card/Moneygram
    7)Ship-ping : 4-7 days with guarantee of customs clearance, drop shipp-ing is accepted to customers’demands.
    8)Who-lesale: very low price, you can make a small order first to test quality and service.

    ( http://www.yessoso.com )

    Online Contact . thank you.

  • http://twitter.com/xharmony harmony

    I don’t think this is to say that handwriting kanji isn’t worth learning, or not important. Just that learners can afford to prioritize other important skills first, if they choose, like learning grammar and reading. Personally I can hand write kana if I need to jot something down very quickly, and I have learned to write a few hundred kanji so far. But I’ve decided to focus on learning to recognize and read as much as I can first. Then once I feel like I have a good enough foundation, I will come back to handwriting later on (I plan to learn about calligraphy at the same time). But if you feel like handwriting kanji helps you to remember them better, or if you just enjoy it, then by all means make it a priority and write them!

  • Yuki

    I can relate to this, even though I haven’t really tried to memorize the stroke order of many kanji. (I can write the kanji for 1-10 and that’s about it. XD) I can read many more kanji than I can write. I would like to be able to write kanji eventually, but I do think it makes more sense to learn the Japanese language fluently in all other areas before trying to learn how to write all those kanji.

  • chahansan

    I can’t write chinese that well because I’ve never had proper chinese education ( been in an international school for 12 years)- frankly I’m really embarassed, but I really don’t feel too impaired by it- if there are characters I don’t know, I just type it out first, as you said.
    Still, I think for chinese it is important to have a sufficient knowledge in characters- unlike japanese, it doesn’t have sound based things like hiragana.

  • Anonymous

    Today,I am very gald to see this wonderful article.It reminds me of something related.Such as you can find in the following website.

    http://www.yessoso.com Where you can find what you want at best price. Ladies and gentleman,please don’t hesitated to click it.http://www.yessoso.com Thousands of brand handbags shoes and high-heel shoes are waiting for you.

    Free shipping!
    Paypal accept! \

  • Anonymous

    In the UK the opposite is happening – by losing handwriting and switching to “abrv txt spk” and sound-byte/headline only news we are losing track of the long story. If you commit to a duality sound-byte like “Exams are getting Easier” and all you have to do is agree or disagree and move on to the next thing… you miss the wonderful complexity of childhood and education – both emotional, philosophical and intrapersonal. On the other hand, take a broadband medium like the tales of Beatrix Potter – you can’t abbreviate the charm in her characters or simplify away the beauty of her illustrations.
    In a similar way calligraphy emphasises the poetic and the imaginative – while typed prose freezes your meaning into a dead format.

  • Anonymous

    Dear friends, do you want to have some different things? Whether you want to give your relatives and friends, take a few different exotic gifts? Whether you want to buy some cheap benefits of thing? So please, let us begin now!

    Click on our website

    (=== http://www.2kuu.com =====)

    Will bring you different surprise

    === http://www.2kuu.com =====

    === http://www.2kuu.com =====

    === http://www.2kuu.com =====

    === http://www.2kuu.com =====

    === http://www.2kuu.com =====

    === http://www.2kuu.com =====

  • Anonymous

    YOU MUST NOT MISS IT!!!
    ———–http://www.2kuu.com ———
    The website wholesale for many kinds of fashion shoes, like the nike,jordan,prada, also including the jeans,shirts,bags,hat and the decorations. All thepr oducts are free shipping, and the the price is competitive, and also can accept the pay pal payment.,after the payment, can ship within short time.
    free shipping accept the pay pal
    SOCCER JERSEY 16
    nike sh ox $35
    Christan Audigier bikini $16
    Air jordan(1-24)shoes $36
    Sunglasses Oakey,coach,gucci $12
    Handbags(Coach gucci juicy lv) $31
    Tshirts (,ed hardy,lacoste) $16
    Jean(True Religion,ed hardy,coogi) $30
    Bikini (Ed hardy,) $18
    —–http://www.2kuu.com ——-

  • Anonymous

    ========== http://www.yessoso.com=======
    coach handbag$38,air max90,dunk,lacoste t-shirt $16air jordan for sale,l

    nba jersy for sale sale,$35,nfl nba jersy for sale
    and so on..
    if you like to order anything you like.
    More details,
    please just browse our website Quality is our Dignity;
    Service is our Lift.
    enjoy yourself.
    thank you!!

  • Aargh57

    You know your article makes a lot of sense. The only thing is, I’ve just spent a year doing RTK and am going to start the sentence method ala AJATT. I don’t want to throw all that studying away and there’s really no other way to do the sentence method with an SRS other than writing it out (is there?) Perhaps if I’d started out with textfugu it’d be different but I don’t think I can just chuck this year of studying out the window. I feel a little sad that I’ve wasted a lot of time.

  • http://www.tofugu.com koichi

    perhaps you could type things out, instead?

  • Anonymous

    Dear customers, thank you for your support of our company.
    Here, there’s good news to tell you: The company recently
    launched a number of new fashion items! ! Fashionable
    and welcome everyone to come buy. If necessary,
    welcome to :===== www. soozone.com========
    T-shirts (Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste) $14
    New era cap $10

    Air jordan(1-24)shoes $30

    Handbags(Coach,ed hardy,lv,d&g) $35

    Jean(True Religion,ed hardy,coogi) $35

    Sunglasses(Oakey,coach,gucci,Armaini)$14

    Bikini (Ed hardy,polo) $18

  • Aargh57

    I guess I could but then I’d be going against the great Khatzumoto.

  • Anonymous

    But can you imagine trying to do RTK without writing? It would have taken more than a year, that’s for sure. And now that you have that skill, why would you want to throw it out just because of one blog post? Keep writing if it works for you, it definitely wasn’t a waste of time.

  • Aargh57

    That’s true Chief. However, I can’t shake this feeling that there’s something to this. I’m still reviewing to the tune of about 200+kanji a day so I haven’t really tackled the sentence part yet(I’ve got minna no nihongo and was going to try to finish that and start sentence mining from it soon). I don’t want to lose the skill of writing (well I guess I don’t quite have it yet but you catch my meaning). However, after reading the post, honestly how useful would it be? If I can recognize the kanji isn’t that enough? I don’t mean that to sound smart alecky, it’s an honest question. How much will I really write the language and couldn’t I concentrate more on just typing out my 10,000 sentences and fly through them rather than tediously writing them all out. Anyway, I don’t think it was a waste but I’m seriously considering just typing instead of writing when I do my sentences. In fact, I just started a small pac from Minna and I put up a post it from my mac and typed them out from the sentences in Anki. Would like to hear your thoughts on this (or anyone else’s for that matter.)

  • Anonymous

    Whatever works for you is what you should do. Don’t do something that doesn’t work as well as something else would just because Koichi, Khatz, Heisig, or anyone else says so. This is your personalized learning journey. I’m still early on in Heisig (early 300s), and for now writing is a skill I want to build up. It might not be a valuable skill later on, but it is for me right now. There will be a point when I write less or not at all, just like there was for my English. But I can still write in English even if I don’t very often, probably because of how much I wrote when I was learning it (as a native).

    This article, as far as I can tell, is also about native learners who learned through the “combine a bunch of strokes” method as opposed to the “combine a few radicals” that we’re doing. I don’t know if that comes into play for their long term memory or not.

    My summed up advice is that if you know the character well enough that writing it becomes a chore (you can envision it in your head and move on before you can finish writing it down), then you probably know it well enough to skip writing it. If you have to stop to think of any of the primitives, their placement, or the story in general, then you should keep writing it until all of that becomes automatic. Getting to that point will help your reading recognition tremendously as well.

    That’s just my 2 cents, I hope it helped. Actually, thinking of this issue helped me form a plan for what I’m going to do in the future. If you don’t already, you should visit the Textfugu forums. I’m a big newbie, but it’s a great community. Good luck!

  • WG

    Anyone seriously considering learning Japanese without handwriting the kanji is (imho) robbing themselves of one of the most pleasurable parts of the experience. When practicing kanji I get the sense of the meaning in my mind, the sound of the word on my tongue and the memory of the stroke order in my fingers all at the same time. For me this is a profound part of the learning process. Whole lot of technological brilliance and convenience in the world these days, but I fear we’re gaining it at the expense of beauty and depth. My 2c anyway.

  • Pingback: The Ultimate Kanji Test: Kanji Kentei

  • Shimenawa

    Couldn’t agree more with you. Anyone who actually encourages people to forget about handwriting must be either lazy as hell, out of his mind or both at the same time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001725691237 Brandon Buckley

    Writing Kanji over and over again is how I learn them… after awhile I forget them but when I see them the word clicks for example 髪 or 刺身. I 90% of the time type Japanese more than I write. It’s good to know that at least some kanji I won’t have to write them.

  • truth

    Very interesting article, and it’s what I always done… I understand myself that I don’t have time to learn to write, read, and understand kanji… (I’m almost 40 years old) so I don’t want to spent all my life until I’m grey and old to learn to write them, so I choose to learn only to read , understand , type kanjis. I think for people who wants to live in japan is important to learn kanji handwritten, so it should be done too. Especially who starts to learn kanji and if you are young and have a lot of time. For people from 35 years 40, they can’t learn everything, so… it’s up of time and what you want to reach with your porpuse to learn kanji!

    Ganbatte!

  • Pingback: Textos excelentes que achei por acaso « エデンの片隅

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1484624515 Stephen Thomas Garr

    I suppose it can be thought of as, “Cursive looks pretty when correctly written but what’s the point when you don’t have to hand write anything.” My cursive sucks and my printing really sucks, but it’s readable. Isn’t the main point of writing things, or language in general, communication? So legibility is the only thing that matters, it doesn’t have to be perfect. And I say, “Yay to the digital age.”

  • Wings And Gills

    If you’ve ever read A Clockwork Orange or Feed, it’s easier to accept that all that l33t- and net-speak stuff and internet slang will probably be regular colloquial language someday. Language is an ever-changing thing. But we can still enforce good grammar practices on kids. =P

    “Tim, ‘inb4′ is a prepositional phrase and requires an object. If you just say ‘inb4,’ you end up with a dangling preposition. What is that preposition, class? Right, ‘b4.’”

    XD

  • Wings And Gills

    If you’ve ever read A Clockwork Orange or Feed, it’s easier to accept that all that l33t- and net-speak stuff and internet slang will probably be regular colloquial language someday. Language is an ever-changing thing. But we can still enforce good grammar practices on kids. =P

    “Tim, ‘inb4′ is a prepositional phrase and requires an object. If you just say ‘inb4,’ you end up with a dangling preposition. What is that preposition, class? Right, ‘b4.’”

    XD

  • Wings And Gills

    Woah! I’ve seen that in subtitled dramas and never knew what they were trying to say! Thanks for the education. =)

  • Wings And Gills

    Woah! I’ve seen that in subtitled dramas and never knew what they were trying to say! Thanks for the education. =)

  • Silvia Groniewicz

    Basically it’s so you don’t suck when you get a form at the P.O. or wherever and are unable to even write simple stuff on it any more. It takes me forever to fill out a form at the P.O. whenever I send something from Japan. It’s usually quicker if I ask someone to please fill it out for me while I tell them what to write.

    Generally I’d say you’re right, it’s definitely not up there on the top things you should be able to do in Japanese, but it is on my list of top things that I’d like to be able to do :)

  • http://www.tofugu.com koichi

    haha, I suppose so – definitely a good example of a time when you still need
    to write… I’ve run into that situation so many times, too D:

  • Marvin Wimbush

    What I think is, that writing Kanji has become more of an art form, than a practicality. To me, it’s sorta ok but not. I think that since things are rapidly changing, out with the old, in with the new. I mean without my Bimoji Training game, I don’t think I could write Kana well anyway. But Kanji? Thank god that writing’s going out of style because this game’s killing me with the Kanji. 18-19 strokes?! Jesus man!

  • Marvin Wimbush

    Only difference is, that Latin’s a dead language, but Japanese is not. 

  • Marvin Wimbush

    Try doing 18-20 strokes. It’s not easy.

  • http://www.kawaiihaven.com Macchan

    Am I the only one who actually likes writing stuff by hand? :s I like writing Japanese by hand, or English, or anything really… I don’t get many opportunities to do this, so I usually just make up stories.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002396612575 Sai Okerstrom

    I’m fourteen and i don’t write like that, it irritates me, seeing my friends and family write that way… 
    I know its such an old comment, but i needed to write that.