How to Study Japanese Over the Summer

Well, it’s that time of year, isn’t it? Some of you are getting out of school for summer break and some of you haven’t had to go to school for decades. Some of you took Japanese classes at school, and some of you are self-taught. Either way, summer makes it really easy not to continue studying your Japanese (or anything, for that matter). I’ve thought through some tips to keep the study-love going during the lazy season.

Don’t take a break

This is an easy trap to fall into. “I’ll just take a couple of weeks off and then I’ll really study after that.” WRONG. Though this may actually work for a few people, it’s best not to take a break and stick to your schedule. For every day that you don’t practice, it gets a little bit easier to not study the next day, and then the next day, and then pretty soon you’ll be taking the entire summer off. A whole summer is a long time not to practice something, especially something so forgetful as language (not to mention the kanji. Oh god, the kanji!). Don’t stop studying just because it’s summer, but also…

Don’t Overdo it!

When people get inspired or motivated, they often tend to burn themselves out as well. Don’t start the summer with the expectation that you will study four hours a day. A few exceptional people might be able to do this. You and me, you know, the “normal people,” can never do this. Make a schedule, take scheduled breaks, just don’t overdo it. It all depends on you, but I’d suggest studying 30 minutes a day, five days a week. Yep, that’s it. Better yet, if you only have thirty minutes to do something, most likely you’ll find more efficient ways to do it, or you’ll study harder during those thirty minutes. Thirty minutes a day will be tough enough for most people. It’s not the actual studying that’s hard, it’s sticking with your schedule, no matter how short it is.

An Opportunity for Review

When you start your “summer studies,” it might be good to take this opportunity to review, especially if you are formally taught Japanese in your school. Whether you understood everything or not, it’s good to go back and solidify your knowledge. One of the Japanese professors at my university had to take Japanese 1 twice when he was in college, due to transferring schools. Although he was a bit peeved to take the same class twice, he came out a much better Japanese student in the end. That first year is really important when it comes to pronunciation, how you read, how you write, grammar, etc., so why not take summer as an opportunity to really get to know those things? You cover a lot of stuff in Japanese class, and it’s impossible to feel really comfortable with everything. Spend a couple of weeks going over your previous lessons. Become a pro in stuff you’ve already done! A good site for Japanese review (and learning) is the cool frood over at TaeKim’s Guide to Japanese. Everything is nicely laid out and there are plenty of examples.

Have a Little Fun!

Pshhhh, it’s summer, enjoy yourself a little. I know I promote all this “studying stuff” and it doesn’t seem that fun, but that’s what you have to deal with when you want to learn another language. Still, there’s opportunity to try new things and study “differently.” When you’re in school, it’s hard to come up with the time to do anything except your homework (that and socializing, working, etc). Now that it’s summer, you probably have a little extra time. Why not try something else? Here are some “alternative” Japanese study methods that will give you a new view on Japanese studies. Check them out!

Lang-8: I’ve been pimping Lang-8 for a few weeks now. It’s a great service for people who want to practice reading and writing Japanese. It’s kind of a language social networking website. The premise is pretty simple. You write journal entries in the language you are learning (i.e. probably Japanese), natives in that language will correct your journal entries for you, and finally, if you’re a nice person, you’ll help some people who are learning your own native language. I’ve learned tons since using the site 6-8 months ago. You can read more about it in my article over here.

Start a Blog (in Japanese): It has never been easier to start a blog. You can get a blog for free over at wordpress.com, blogger.com, or livejournal.com. I’m a big WordPress fan, but all of those will work (and are very easy to set up). I have a blog in Japanese over at Koichiben.com, where I talk about American culture and the English language (kind of the Bizarro version of Tofugu). If you start at the beginning and read all of the articles, you’ll see a vast improvement. I’m learning new things every time, and I even get the articles edited first via the kind users at Lang-8. I know a few other people who have blogs in Japanese, and it’s been very helpful to them as well. If you can get people to visit it, then it’s like you have to update it every once in a while, which means your Japanese has to get better. I don’t know about you, but I enjoy blogging, so blogging in Japanese only seemed like the natural thing to do for practice, and almost any level of Japanese learner can do this, as long as they have some basics down. Heck, you can even throw some ads on there and attempt to make some money from it (though, don’t expect more than pocket change unless you become ridiculously popular).

Start a Vlog (in Japanese): It’s also a good way to get people to visit your blog, if you do that as well. That’s pretty much how I built Koichiben up. One of the disadvantages to only blogging in Japanese is the lack of speaking practice. Starting a Vlog along with your Blog will help round out the experience a little bit. Another option, if you don’t want people to see you would be to start a podcast in Japanese.

Plan a Trip to Japan: You don’t even have to actually go (though that would be awesome). Just planning a trip to Japan will help you learn some Japanese, get you more familiar with the geography, help you understand how trains work, teach you about Japanese money, and tell you about some of the history of the country. It might even inspire you to study Japanese harder, since you might end up wanting to actually take this trip you planned someday. This isn’t Japanese study persé, but it is surprisingly educational if you take it seriously. There are a bunch of websites out there about traveling to Japan. I think the Tofugu team primarily used Japan-Guide for our last trip. Still, to find the really cool places, sometimes you have to delve into the Japanese website world and poke around. This is where the education really begins.

Get Familiar with Culture, Current Events

Do you all know what an RSS reader is? If you do, then you know how amazingly convenient and addictive they can be. I use google reader to organize all the things I want to read on the internet. Basically, an RSS reader lets you subscribe to websites (this website, included) so that whenever they update with new content, you’ll get it sent directly to your reader. This means, you can read all your favorite blogs in one place (or, sometimes, only parts of them). If you haven’t, you should subscribe to Tofugu’s feed! Anyways, enough self-promotion.

There are tons of websites out there that do Japanese news, culture, etc. Tofugu, believe it or not, is only one of them (ZOMG, what?). There are a bunch of other sites that cover cool Japanese things, and you can subscribe to all of them via RSS. Here’s just a few of my favorites: RockingInHakata, PinkTentacle, WhatJapanThinks, and NihonHacks. Also, there’s this sweet website that is like a Digg website just for Japan-related things: JapanSoc.

I always think it’s important to learn culture when learning language, but I’m going to save that for it’s own article sometime. Just let it be known that there are many aspects of the Japanese language that make absolutely no sense unless you understand the cultural background, and by cultural background I don’t mean anime, in case you were hoping. Anyways, learning about the culture and reading up on Japan’s current events will help paint a realistic and well-rounded picture of Japan, which in turn will make you a better language student. Very abstract, but I really believe it!

Figuring out a Schedule that Works for You

Actually, figuring out a schedule is the easy part. Sticking with it is difficult. There are so many ways to figure out and stick to a schedule, but only some of them will work for you. I’m not here to tell people how to schedule their time, but maybe you can help. How do you schedule Japanese study time? How do you stick with it? Let us all know – the more the better. I don’t think there’s one “best” way, so the more ideas we throw out there, the higher the likelyhood we’ll figure something out that works for somebody!

Anyways, I wish you all the best of luck in studying your Japanese this summer. Tofugu will be right there with you, getting angry if you don’t study, so don’t slack off too much.

  • mmnessa

    I’m going to venezuela over the summer, haven’t been there for so long so I think it’s gonna be hard for me to actually set my mind to study ANYTHING at all.
    I like the websites you listed, and I would also add Japanprobe ( I assume a lot of people know about it). I like their videos and it was thanks to Japanprobe that I found “The Japanese Tradition” and “Gyagu manga biyori” which are pretty hilarious

  • http://www.tofugu.com koichi

    Yeah, I follow them, but I’m often not happy with the quality of their articles. I suppose they are supposed to be a “news” website, and they do that, but they need more depth in their articles to get on my “favorites” list :)

  • Digger

    Just the kind of blog I need. ^_^

    My best tip for how to stop watching anime/sleeping/watching birds and actually commit myself to a study session is to promise myself, “Just study for 15 mins. If you don’t want to continue after 15 minutes, you have permission to stop.” And then keep my promise. If those 15 minutes turned into boredom, I’d quit. But that’s never happened. After 15 minutes go by, I find myself saying, “Just a little more, just a little more….” until hours have gone by.

    But you have to keep your promises to yourself! If you need to stop, stop. That way you’ll trust yourself the next time you tell yourself, “Just 15 minutes….”

  • mountaincritter

    Just the kind of blog I need. ^_^

    My best tip for how to stop watching anime/sleeping/watching birds and actually commit myself to a study session is to promise myself, “Just study for 15 mins. If you don’t want to continue after 15 minutes, you have permission to stop.” And then keep my promise. If those 15 minutes turned into boredom, I’d quit. But that’s never happened. After 15 minutes go by, I find myself saying, “Just a little more, just a little more….” until hours have gone by.

    But you have to keep your promises to yourself! If you need to stop, stop. That way you’ll trust yourself the next time you tell yourself, “Just 15 minutes….”

  • fredydb327

    You could always just go to Japan… realize how intense Japanese is (by intense I also mean awesome in a way) and then that inspires you to study more so you can understand stuff by the time you go back the next time. :D
    So good post. I think 30 minutes a day 5 days a week is a good plan.
    I may start a blog. I’d have nothing to say the first couple of posts though since my Japanese is extremely basic.
    May just be hiragana and katakana, which I say everyone go over in the beginning.
    Also, for writing practice, I like this website: http://www.tokyomokyo.com/index.php?option=com_

  • Livvi_Spatula

    Actually, since graduating I’ve been able to devote more time to watching ani- I mean learning Japanese, and I’ve found that you don’t need words to communicate after all. Just a wide range of grunts. Everyone knows that summer is a time to do as little as possible, and what better way to communicate than in grunts? XD

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/mariedesu mariedesu

    I work in a call center which is usually very slow. So I pretty much just study all day at work! I really love your site/s and videos by the way… Thanks!

  • Tereza

    I wish I could… No! I definitely will learn the basics of Japanese this summer…
    1) I have more time for it.
    2) This article was inspiring.
    3) I’ll use that “guidetojapanese” … It looks very useful for a beginner like me.
    4) Thanks for “tofugu”.
    5) Thanks for “tofugu”.

  • Chimiko

    I want to go to Japan next summer. I’m earning the money little by little. We’ll see how it goes~

  • kevinnwhat

    um i dont even want to imagine what a plane ticket to japan is now with everything going on

  • kevinnwhat

    oh yeah and i cant agree more with the dont take a break. I used to study for like 2 hours a day, and it was fine i loved it. And then i started lacrosse and had finals and stuff so needed to stop for like a month and a half. And now as much as iwant to continue, its so hard to start again haha, i keep delaying it! cause im so used to not studying anymore

    trust me-no breaks! they’ll only hurt you >_<

  • Chimiko

    I think it’s about 700-1000-ish, depends on when you buy it I guess…

  • diojenisu

    The only phrase that has ever made me laugh out loud, as seen in an anime forum;

    “You are so baka”

    Oh, man.
    Anyways, as for the summer i plan on finishing the kanji left (it’s over a thousand but it doesn’t seem too many, now) and watching 14 movies by Kurosawa, 2 by Ozu, 5 by Iwai, 2 by Aoyama and whatever i find by Wakamatsu. I’m also gonna get on further into China and try whatever i can in Chinese. And i gotta study some poems in Anient Greek and Latin for the next year in school. Lots of time i’ll spent on a chair. Thank goodness i hate hot weather.
    Have a nice summer, everyone.

  • http://www.goddesscarlie.com GoddessCarlie

    What about us peeps rocking down under? i’m cold! My brain is too frozen to study!!

    I lie. Learning Japanese keeps me warm at night.

  • Ank

    That’s actually a perfect idea for me to get a head’s start on my Japanse major!
    I’m definitly going to commit myself to the kanji, since that’ll make the rest a hell of a lot easier! =D
    Thanks Koichi m(_ _)m
    <33

  • JackTamaki

    I don’t know if anyone else has mentioned it yet, but Concordia Langauge Villages has a great program for students 18 years old and younger for Japanese. They have both two-week and four-week immersive study programs in Minnesota. There is also a one-week program for younger children, and a four-week program to Japan. Both four-week programs meet the requirements for receiving high school credits, but you’ll have to check with your school to see if your school will accept your summer study with CLV for high school credit. It’s too late to sign up for this year, but keep the program in mind in planning for next year! CLV offers programs for Arabic, Chinese, Danish, English, Finnish, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Norwegian, Portugese, Russian, Spanish, and Swedish. It’s a very very good organization and I would recommend it to anyone wanting to studying foreign languages in the states.
    http://clvweb.cord.edu/prweb/japanese/japanese.asp

    Also, for college-age students, Middlebury has a well-known and well respected (and intense) summer language immersion program for many languages, including Japanese.

  • none

    All of you may be interested in this site.

    http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/all-j

    In one of your previous videos, koichi, you commented that you thought your Japanese could never be native level. You also said said Japanese people who come to America would never have native level English. Speak for yourself. You may always have flawed, broken Japanese, but some of us won’t. No offense intended.

  • emiko

    my class starts tomorrow! i’m so excited! i hope to learn more during the summer!

  • http://tofugu.com Tofugu_Erin

    Ugh, I’m removing my long disgruntled reply to this comment. If you’re the owner of this anonymous (boo) comment and want to know/discuss what I said, let me know. If not, I’ll just let it lie. It’s not worth expending energy on right now.

  • Ank

    I think what Koichi meant was that you’ll never attain native level, because you’re not confronted with that particular language in all kinds of dimensions of life. Or do you happen to know all e.g. kitchen appliances like a colunder, spatula, etc. in Japanese/English?

  • none

    Yes, I am interested in what you said. Please fill me in.

  • http://www.tofugu.com koichi

    Sorry you think my Japanese is “flawed and broken,” even though you “mean no offense.” Quite the harsh tone for not meaning any offense. hmm.

    I certainly don’t think it’s the best it could be, and I’m working hard at it, but I also don’t think I’ll ever become as perfect as someone who was born in Japan and raised speaking Japanese. Even if you are able to speak fluently, which is much much different from speaking at native level, it’s very difficult and rare to understand all of the cultural and societal implications behind language without having been raised in that culture. You could spend your entire life studying the language, and never understand these things 100%. I even know non-Japanese who have lived in Japan for 20+ years. Their Japanese is great. Very fluent. Still, there is always something that makes their Japanese a little different from Japanese natives.

    Still, if you reach native Japanese ability, please let me know. I’ll be waiting for your proof. And jeesh, don’t comment as anonymous. Not helping your credibility very much.

  • http://tofugu.com Tofugu_Erin

    Ok, well here it is. It’s a little disjointed toward the end, haha. I was getting all, “Meh, I’m over it” and just started rambling.

    1. Anonymous commenting kind of bugs me.

    2. While I definitely feel that Japanese students can communicate at a level which would lead native speakers to assume they are fluent, there will always be problems with their speaking, small or not. One of my professors (a Japanese linguist) gave a lecture a few semesters ago about something she had learned at a linguistics conference. What it boiled down to was that, at a fundamental level, native Japanese speakers and Japanese students approach the language differently, by which I mean that their brains use completely different pathways when hearing/speaking Japanese. This difference is uncorrectable; Japanese students, fluent as they may seem/be will never reach complete fluency, and they will never be as “good” at the Japanese language as native speakers are. And it’s probably the same for all languages.

    I don’t know, this is just my (probably incoherent, as I just woke up) two cents on the issue. I agree that the video would probably have been better without that last comment about the likeliness of achieving Japanese fluency. Your hostile tone (despite your half-hearted “no offense intended”) and exaggerated criticism of Koichi’s Japanese (which, while not fluent, is more than sufficient for communication), though, makes me feel like you were disturbed/threatened by the idea that you’ll never have “perfect” Japanese. And, hey, I might be wrong, but you probably won’t. You can come pretty close, though. The comment, while flippant, definitely wasn’t meant to be taken personally, so I suggest you don’t let it keep you up at night.

  • Eevee

    If I was really studying Japanese at the moment, these would be some really useful tips, Koichi! haha.
    I get what you’re saying, but the whole ‘schedule/study a little bit at a time’ method doesn’t work with me. I like to live a fairly unstructured life. I’m one of those people that can pick up a textbook months later and still remember about 80% or more of what I learned. Thankfully. But, for tofugu’s sake, next year when I finally do start taking some lessons I will think about this article and try to review, at least once.

    Regarding the whole “reaching native speaker’s level” topic, it is very true. Unless you were raised in a home where Japanese was spoken regularly by native speakers, it’s pretty unlikely to ever get to the point where you are seamlessly integrated into the language. I mean, thinking about English, most of us native speakers don’t even understand our own language sometimes! Truly, none of us will ever be able to speak a language perfectly, no slip-ups or things unknown. It’s human to make mistakes and not to be perfect, let’s just accept that and move on!

  • none

    “Still, if you reach native Japanese ability, please let me know. I’ll be waiting for your proof. And jeesh, don’t comment as anonymous. Not helping your credibility very much.”

    My first language is Japanese…my second is English.

  • none

    Anywho, you are right. I was a bit harsh there. Sorry and goodbye. Good luck on your vids.

  • none

    Oh you want proof Koichi? Below is a website by someone who learned Japanese to a native-level.

    http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/all-j

    The next link is by two poles who learned English to a native-level.
    http://www.antimoon.com/

    It’s okay to be wrong some times. By the way, come to think of it, we are both correct. Yes, if you learn Japanese by studying “30 minutes 5 times a week” you will sound foreign. However, if you study a language like the people above did, then you can have native level Japanese/English.

    “it’s very difficult and rare to understand all of the cultural and societal implications behind language without having been raised in that culture.”

    Quite frankly, I have never heard anything so unlogical. I think comments like that are just to protect your own insecurities in your Japanese ability. Seriously, lets take English for an example. Their is not any magical “cultural and societal implications” behind language. Languages are just a set number of sounds and symbols that any human being can learn. For more info, check out the following link.

    http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/stop-

  • http://www.tofugu.com koichi

    Sorry, thought you were the other way around. If you are in fact a Japanese person that writes English this well, then I’m really impressed! You speak English very well. Still, I wish you wouldn’t post anonymously – for all I know, you could be some American with too much time on their hands making things up about yourself. In fact, that’s what I think is the case, until you prove otherwise :)

    “Quite frankly, I have never heard anything so unlogical. I think comments like that are just to protect your own insecurities in your Japanese ability.”

    First of all, “unlogical” isn’t a word. Second, I’m not sure where I’ve ever been insecure. In fact, I am very open about my japanese level, and I’ve been taking the time to try and improve it. As for the alljapaneseallthetime links you keep spamming (is this your website, or something?), I can’t really comment, since I’ve never seen the person speak, nor have I met the author in person. It’s a nice blog, sure, but doesn’t really prove what you’re saying.

    “Seriously, lets take English for an example. Their is not any magical “cultural and societal implications” behind language. “

    If you don’t see the cultural and societal implications behind language, then I suppose there’s nothing for me to say to you about it. If you don’t understand it, then you don’t understand it. That’s cool, like I said, it’s very difficult to understand if you don’t grow up in that culture. Maybe it requires study in linguistics to notice it as well.

    I’ll concede a little bit for you, though. Every once in a while, once in a very very blue moon, someone will reach “native level” of another language, as in, there is absolutely no way to tell that that person is speaking the said language as a second language. Maybe one in a million language learners can achieve this. Very rare, right? On the other hand, MANY people can become “fluent” in another language, i.e., the ability to communicate well/comfortably in the said second language. There’s a big difference between the two, I think, and the former is almost impossible to achieve. I’m not here to hurt anyone’s feelings. I’m just trying to be realistic and help people. For most people, when you try too hard at something all at once, they will get burned out and quit. That’s just how it is.

    Lastly, I’m not here to insult you, but apparently you ARE here to insult me. I already think you’re lying about your identity, and your regular pot-shots at me certainly aren’t helping your credibility. I’m out here, in the public, everything already on the table. I’m open about my history, my language ability, etc. It’s easy for someone to try and discredit me from the shadows and make claims that can’t be backed up. That’s all I think this is right now, I think everyone would appreciate if you came out into the open. C’mon, I don’t even know where you live! I don’t know your history with English language study. I’ve never heard you speak English. if I wasn’t on youtube/didn’t provide picture evidence, I could very easily say I am a Japanese native who learned English this well. Maybe you’d gain yourself some credibility if you came out, eh? :)

  • kevinnwhat

    i reached fluent native level japanese by watching naruto, only took 2 weeks.

  • Stephen

    I love all the drama that is going along with my studying of Japanese. Anyways what does fluency in language really mean? When I open an English dictionary most of the words in there confuse me. Its been my language my whole life I don’t understand it and I think people from different countries who use it speak funny. I always ask my wife who is Japanese and who had lived there for twenty eight years how people’s Japanese is from foreign countries and none of them sound like native speakers to her. Even people who were raised in Japan and then moved to the states Japanese sounds funny to her. Oh and of course when she talks to someone from Tokyo she uses her own dialect so there is confusion among the Japanese with the Japanese, just like if I talked to someone from Georgia Id be confused with their crazy accent. So who cares no one is perfect or totally fluent in any language unless they invented the damn thing themselves. So what I guess I’m really saying who cares. Yet I enjoyed reading the confrontation and don’t mind if it continues cause Its forcing me to come back and check up on it.

  • none

    lol yeah I kinda made the word unlogical up. Anywho, I am sorry. I shouldn’t of come to your site and started all of this trouble. Also to answer your question, no, that is not my blog. So yeah, I am sorry. By the way, some of your vids are pretty funny. keep up the good work!

  • Djarno

    Does anyone else have this problem?

    When I am speaking Japanese, I will somethings deliberately bring out my American accent. I just kind of have this unconscious feeling like I am patronizing Japanese people when I speak too acurately. It feels like when you imitate someone as a way to make fun of them. It bugs me even though I know a native speaker would never see it as insulting and would probably understand me 10 times better. And then there are words like ケーキ which are transliterated directly from English and I wonder if I should pronounce it like I would in English or say it with the superfluous (at least in English) u/o/i. I guess it’s just a neurosis that I’ll have to get over.

  • Djarno

    By the way, Koichi, I luv ya, man, but I think you should follow your own advice from (the now defunct, I guess) Vlogly and ignore the haters. Let this guy get his attention by writing a thesis on “How to Learn a Foreign Language by Abandoning Your Life and Making Yourself Miserable.”

  • diojenisu

    I do agree with the rareness of someone linguistically skillful enough to get that a good grip of any language. It would most certainly involve the person having great cultural knowledge of the country in question, and a great deal of, should i say, building up your own perspective on the country’s ethics and ideals.
    But, frankly, “rareness” is overestimated. Look at Tofugu. How many people here don’t have English as a mother tongue and are still able to come across as perfectly (whatever that means) fluent, native speakers? I have seen people from Sweden, Finland etc. And of course a more solid example; I have never been to America or England, nor have i ever met an American or British. I got where i am now by taking in information, by being sincerely interested in English, it’s arts and sciences, the people it represents and their history. I firmly believe that it’s not due to any special quality that we have (besides of course any “genetic” characteristcs that by their nature should be overlooked, since they mean nil if not cultivated), but to the personal interest we put in. The fact that not too many people develop such deep knowledge (which resembles more wisdom than just “knowing”) is because not too many people are sincerely, wholeheartedly interested in making a language a very part of themselves, essentially getting to understand a part of the world better.
    Anyways, i just wanted to state my views because you presented the “rareness” of linguistic freedom in a way that kinda bugged me. Maybe you were just trying to come off as warm and polite, but don’t put the possibility that way down. And if you just wanted to sound realistic, then here i am to say that i handle English well enough and i know others who do as well. And i’m sure the same goes for any language.
    And finally, let me say that i’m so glad that sites like to Tofugu are out there, allowing us to develop ideas like these and talking to other people about them. Tofugu rocks in many ways :)

  • GodoHell

    I have to say, this drama is a little off-putting. I’m not blaming Koichi at all (seeing as it was a *very* personal attack. The fact that anyone would say something so rude is a little distressing.
    That aside, I have another example of learning other languages and never becoming fully fluent in them. I’ve been studying German for six years and spent the first four months of this year in Germany studying abroad. Now, six years is nothing as far as learning German. I know for a solid fact that, although I’m able to communicate fairly well with Germans, I’m nowhere near perfect. However, the Germans I spoke to (most of them anyways) have been studying English since their equivalent of elementary school. Even Germans who would be considered, for all intents and purposes, ‘fluent’ still had problems sometimes understanding what I was saying when I spoke in English. For the most part, I could speak English at a regular pace and they would understand me but every once in a while I would have to stop and explain something to them or translate a word for them.
    So… Long story short, I’m in complete agreement with Koichi. :)

  • St

    My $0.02:
    “Oh you want proof Koichi? Below is a website by someone who learned Japanese to a native-level.

    http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/all-j
    That’s funny though because the author of that website doesn’t provide any proof that he actually speaks Japanese at a native speaker’s level. What he does do though is pimp amazon books with referral links that will probably bring in a good amount of money from people who buy into his ideas. That’s probably not a bad business plan, because a lot of people who study Japanese, from my perception, are pop culture afficionados (which is of course fine) with little motivation to study hard and little tolerance for delayed gratification (which is terrible).

    Second, and I know this sounds condescending and conservative, some of us just don’t want to learn “real Japanese” if by real Japanese one means the Japanese used in anime and manga. Or the Japanese used by Japanese young people. Some people simply prefer formal, erudite Japanese with heavy use of keigo. That’s just my opinion of course, and I’m probably an old fogey for thinking that way. Still, I think it’s quite assuming for people to think that informal speech is somehow “more real” than grown-ups’ speech. You won’t learn the latter by just watching anime 8 hours a day (assuming you’ll learn anything at all that way if you’re over 16…). Our teachers always told us that extracurricular material (e.g. TV) are necessary to enhance your abilities, but cannot be used as a basis for learning any language.

    And finally, the idea that language is just a bunch of words with no cultural or societal implications is simply naive. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapir-Whorf_hypoth

  • Lenners

    Well, I hope my trip to Japan helps my elementary-level Japanese a bit ^^” Thanks for all the helpful suggestions, Koichi!

  • http://www.michaelburnner.com oo0speed0oo

    I actually heard about “alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/” before I heard about “tofugu.com” I actually started his method of trying to learn 2,000 Japanese Symbols before learning anything else. But i had tons of questions while learning these characters but I keep studying them. I’m up to about 150 characters (I haven’t been studying lately, to much work…jetlag is a bitch) and what keeps me motivated is that i can look at certain signs and symbols around New York and get the jest of whats going on.
    Anyway it pains me to see people arguing over personal opinion. There are always going to be exceptions to every rule. Just let it be, we are all people wanting to learn a language for more reasons than one. Just learn the language and argue about what sushi to pick tonight at a restaurant.

  • emiko

    hmm . . . it seems someone was being a little mean . . . but you really shouldn’t take it to heart koichi . . . some people just have there own opinions that they force upon other people . . .

    as for the whole ‘native level’ issue i don’t really understand what the big deal is . . . some people can just naturally pick up languages or they worked extra hard in order to obtain their language skills . . . not everyone can do it, only a few talented gifted souls can . . . but as long as you put in a good amount of effort you’ll do fine . . .

    btw . . . i just started my class! . . . it is so much fun! . . . i can’t wait for tomorrow!

  • http://www.tofugu.com koichi

    awesome and congrats! I hope it works out well.

  • http://www.tofugu.com koichi

    Totally agree with you on the “formal japanese” part (well, I agree with everything else, too, I suppose). I’m drafting up an article about why you should learn “textbook japanese” or “formal japanese.” It’s really important if you want to not make a fool out of yourself and be able to talk like an adult (or a productive member of society, for that matter). Thanks for your comment, and thanks for your input as well!

  • http://www.tofugu.com koichi

    Well, at least for me, I was arguing the difference between “native level” and “fluency.” I think fluency refers to the ability to communicate at a fairly normal level and in most “normal” situations. This is totally attainable, totally possible – So, not understanding Georgia dialect doesn’t make you not fluent, and because you both share the same language, you would both be native speakers in it, even if you speak different variations of of it. Really interesting stuff, communication between dialects. I suppose what I was trying to say is that reaching native level in a language requires more than just the ability to speak and communicate – it requires one to understand the cultural implications behind what is said as well. crazy stuff like that. anyways, language is super crazy and complicated, haha.

  • emiko

    thank you very much! that helps me a lot! . . . i’m off to study now

  • Joe mcartney

    classes dont help learn languages that much

  • emiko

    i believe it all depends on the way your mind translates information . . . also, some people work better in groups while others learn better independently . . . sometimes people need to be encouraged by peers, so they take a class . . . others may get distracted by others during a lesson, so they may choose independent studies . . . both ways work, some just prefer the one over the other

  • Djarno

    Classes may not but grades certainly do. At least, if you plan on working in an industry where the most important thing you get out of college is a GPA.

  • http://www.sanokame.com Sano

    The hardest part for me is to actually find the time to study during the summer. It’s hard to study on a daily basis when you’re working, sometimes I work from 11 AM to 10 PM so I’m too tired to study after work. However, I’ve quit my job, my schedule ends at July 11 so I’ll be able to focus on learning Japanese soon!

    When I study I need to follow a schedule, I add everything to my calendar because if I don’t, I end up saying “I’ll do it later” to myself. Using a calendar helps me focus even if I don’t feel like studying at all, skipping calendar events makes me feel bad while skipping something I just said to myself (like “I’ll study in 2 hours”) isn’t too bad.

  • JackTamaki

    I also agree whole-heartedly with Koichi.
    Words are always worth more than face value, and it’s hard to understand the deep subtextual meaning of words unless you grew up using them. I hope that one day I can become fluent in at least Spanish and Japanese, but I strongly doubt that I would ever be able to communicate in Spanish or Japanese in a way that would make me linguistically indistinguishable from a native speaker.

  • emiko

    you have a point . . . but i’m not one to really worry too much about the grade, since i’m taking the class for my own sake . . . i like the language, but my high school doesn’t have japanese! . . . so i decided to take a college class during the summer . . . it is extremely fast paced! . . . i just hope i can keep up!

  • emiko

    Hang in there at your work until July 11th