What It’s Like Dating A Japanese Girl

Over the next two weeks we’ll be writing a small series of posts about non-Japanese people dating Japanese people from multiple perspectives. This first post is the most common of the three (possibly four) viewpoints we’ll be covering, with the other two being “What It’s Like Dating A Non-Japanese Person (Japanese Perspective)” and “What It’s Like To Date A Japanese Guy (Female non-Japanese perspective).”

Since the most common question I get in my email is usually a poorly written grammatical catastrophe that tends to be along the lines of “How I get Japanese gurls fast?” I thought it was only appropriate to start with the topic of men dating Japanese women, as I rarely get the opposite “How I get Japanese boyz fast?” question. Now, in this post I won’t actually be telling you “how get Japanese gurls fast” (that secret disappeared with the Jomon, long ago), but I will be going over what it’s like to date a Japanese girl, in general, based on around fifty people who responded to a survey I put out a couple months ago. There will also be some information that was gleaned from one-on-one interviews I conducted with people as well as some personal insight.

Alright. Are you ready to put on your imagination goggles? You’re a dude, and finally (finally!) after the forty-sixth Japanese girl you’ve asked, one of them has sighed and then followed that *sigh* up with an “okay, fine. Just this once, okay?” It’s a date! Later that night you shine your “Dispel The Foreigners” kanji tattoo, put on your fanciest cosplay outfit, and get ready for your first date with a Japanese girl. But then you realize, just as you’re about to knock on her door ten minutes early (boo boo) that you have no idea what you can expect! Don’t worry, we’re here to help.

Keep in mind that a lot of statements are generalizations. All people are individuals that do their own things, so use the following information with caution. We are not responsible for causing any injury, death, or heartbreak, kk?

Getting The Girl

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One thing in particular for non-Japanese guys compared to non-Japanese girls (dating Japanese guys) is that it seemed a lot easier for the dude to find someone willing to date them. If you just open your eyes and look around Japan you’ll see this statement in action. Even outside of Japan this holds true. How many couples are there with non-Japanese guys and Japanese girls? Okay, now how many Japanese guys with non-Japanese girls do you see? Probably not as many. Perhaps none at all. Part of this could certainly be due to the fact that Japanese girls are more open than Japanese guys to the idea of dating non-Japanese people. Whatever it is, if you’re a guy you’re going to have a much easier time meeting and then dating Japanese people.

As you might expect as well, a lot of men met their significant other via some kind of English-related activity, whether it was English school, some kind of English practice circle, or even a girl just wanting to practice English on a train. Not looking Japanese has its perks in this case.

We met at a 合コン, essentially. It was a dinner for girls who wanted to learn English through my company. -anonymous

I met her at a Japanese/English language exchange event in my city.  -ぺんぺん

I was an English teacher in Japan for a few years, then when I returned home to Canada, I wanted to keep up my Japanese language skills, so I joined a Japanese-English Language Exchange program at a local university. One day the group was sitting in a circle, and there were cute Japanese girls on either side of me. I made a quick decision that I wanted to talk to the girl on my right, so when they said to start talking, I turned towards her, introduced myself, and the rest is history.  -James

Second girl introduced herself to me, in flawless English, on the train from Tokyo to Mito one night. -Dale

That being said, a lot of non-Japanese people go to Japan to teach English, so of course there’s going to be a lot of English-teaching-related relationships going on. Maybe teaching English / speaking English has nothing to do with finding someone. Maybe most non-Japanese people are doing English-related things already, so of course this story comes up more often! That’s definitely possible, but I wouldn’t know unless I talked to more Japanese girls dating non-Japanese guys about it. But, there were some other “first meeting” places mentioned a decent amount as well. “At a bar” and “online” came up fairly often, so if  English isn’t really your thing then those two alternatives exist as well. Though, “English” does come up later in the “communication” section of this article, so perhaps there is something to it?

Expectations Of The Man

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We’ll talk more about this a lot more in the “What It’s Like To Date A Japanese Guy” post since I think that perspective is more interesting here, but let’s take a quick look at what you, the dude, is expected to do.

First of all, you’re going to be paying for everything… that is, except purikura (actually part of a story I’ll put in the opposite version of this article), because girls can pay for that on their own. If you go out on a date for dinner, be prepared to pay for the food. No splitting the bills or BS like that, because you’re the guy and you’re going to pay. Of course, there’s exceptions to this “rule” and there will be girls out there willing and asking to pay for date-related things, but that’s not the norm.

That being said, if you end up living together or visiting her home, you won’t be expected to do any of the housework or cooking. There were a couple exceptions to the cooking rule (where the guy really loved cooking and insisted on cooking), but for the most part it’s expected that you’re going to let them do all of that.

There will also be some interesting cultural differences, depending on where you’re from. Expect more gift-giving to happen from girls. This is one thing that seemed to pop up in the surveys that surprised people a lot, for some reason. Japan is a very gift-giving culture so it makes sense, but just be sure to be ready for it. My favorite quote has nothing to do with gift giving, however, and has to do with going on a movie-date.

[W]e were on a movie date and she refused to let me hold the popcorn bag. She actually held it there for me for over 2 hours. Also, she has given me several little gifts pretty early on. Typically I wouldn’t expect that here. -ぺんぺん

The expectations of “what a guy is supposed to do” and “what a girl is supposed to do” are going to be different from culture to culture. I don’t want to spoil too much from the girl’s perspective article though, so I’m going to stop here. But, the above should give you an idea of where to start at least, should you find yourself in the position of dating a Japanese girl.

Showing Affection

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Affection and how you show it tends to be a bigger topic on the “girls dating Japanese guys” side of things, but we’ll go over some of the bigger points here (and you’ll have to wait for more of the stories and such in the next article).

In general, Japanese people don’t show as much affection towards each other in public (or in private, for that matter) compared to Western couples. This surprises a lot of people at first. There’s a lack of hand holding, hugging, kissing, and so on in public places. Some people even complained that “the first kiss” happens way later than you’d expect, though others said that sex tends to happen sooner than they expect. I suppose both of those statements could be true at the same time, though.

There were some Japanese girl perspectives in the survey I ran and thankfully a couple of them talked about this topic as well as the topic of physical affection.

It’s more important to understand each other than it is to show how much I love someone through touching. -anonymous

Sometimes it’s nice when thoughts are difficult to understand. It adds some mystery to the relationship. -anonymous

Less physical contact makes physical contact more special when it happens. If you always touch each other, then it’s not special anymore when you do. -ち

In Western relationships you’re expected to show physical affection in private and in public. It’s how you show you love someone, right? In Japan that’s not the way you do it and “understanding of the other person” becomes more important. This was also brought up a lot in terms of non-physical affection. One complaint I saw a lot was that non-Japanese guys had trouble knowing what the girl was thinking and feeling. It’s certainly the Japanese way to not come out and directly say how you’re feeling about something, so this has caused a few problems in respondents’ relationships.

In Japan, you’re expected to be able to read and understand people and how they’re feeling, even though they’re not showing it or telling you. That being said, Japanese people spend their entire lives learning how to do this whereas in the West we tend to just say what’s on our mind so this “skill” never really develops. A lot of people in the surveys thought their girlfriend was being cold to them, but in reality they were just being normal and the guy was expected to know what was going on. Or, when the girl was upset about something she wouldn’t really say it, and it would become a problem when the guy didn’t realize. It’s safe to say that you should pay extra close attention to noticing cues she may send out. If you miss them you may not think it’s a big deal, but after a while she will think you’re selfish and mean. Communicating and talking about this issue has also proven helpful to some.

Meeting Her Family

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“Meeting the family” seemed to be one of the things that a lot of people were initially nervous about then figured out that it wasn’t so big of a deal. Most families are nice, accepting, and won’t try to kill you in your sleep because you’re dating their precious Japanese daughter. Almost everyone had a great experience meeting the family… that is except for one respondent, who has an awesome story. Keep in mind, this is probably not the norm. Also note that this Japanese girl also grew up partially in Japan and partially in LA (will make more sense as you read it):

Mom loved me, and even told me I was chotto sekushi sugi, with a frighteningly lecherous wink. Dad was old school Nipponjin and hated my guts. At oshogatsu time, my girlfriend invited me over – I was off work with not much going on, so I suppose she didn’t want me to feel lonely (or call any of her friends back). New Year’s Eve day, and of course their cleaning the house, for company the next day. I didn’t understand oshogatsu protocol very well, and didnt think this was a big deal. I wanted to help clean, but of course they wouldn’t hear of it, and sat me down in in front of the TV while they worked. In retrospect, I see how,this,was tough – manners dictated they treat me like a guest, but at the same time they wanted/needed to do the family house clean. I was just getting into watching The Highlander without subtitles when I heard a row starting in the kitchen through the shoji that separated it from the room I was in. My girlfriend was defending my being there, and Dad was berating her for bringing an Ameko (yes, he used that word) into their house on such a family day. At this point, i asked mom if i should leave. she assured me in very polite Japanese that it was ok to stay. Girlfriend stomped off from dad into the room I was in. Dad followed her very mad at this point telling her how a respectful Japanese daughter should never walk away from her elder when she was being talked to, and he slapped her face. Like any young woman who had reached maturity in L.A., and very unlike a respectful Japanese girl, girlfriend acted out of reflex when she was slapped and kneed him hard in the royal regalia. He went down like a ton of bricks. At this point mom leaned over, and still in very polite Japanese, suggested that now might be a good time to leave, after all. About 30 minutes later, girlfriend rode her bike over to my apartment with 20,000 yen her mom had given her, and we partied for the next couple days with mom’s blessing. -Dale

Despite the story above, this seems to be one of the things you least have to worry about. In fact, there seemed to be more problems with the Western parents, because usually they were afraid their child would never come home again after marrying a Japanese girl (sometimes they were correct in this assumption).

Communication?

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Another topic that I thought might come up more but didn’t actually pose much of a problem was the issue of “communication.” Despite having two separate native languages, respondents communicated well with their significant others. I have a couple theories on this.

One involves an idea brought up earlier in the article in the “affection” section. Communication is often unspoken in Japanese culture (not due to bionic implants, sadly) and you’re supposed to read the other person to know how they’re feeling and to know what they want. Perhaps those who have had longer and more successful relationships realized this earlier. Or perhaps the Japanese significant other met the non-Japanese partner half way (in being more direct).

The other theory involves English. Of course, the non-Japanese person often learned quite a bit of Japanese, and that helps too. But, since so many of the “meetings” of these couples had to do with English (school, meetups, practice-attempts, etc) it is safe to assume that the Japanese girl had an interest in English already which means they would be more likely to learn English well  compared to regular Japanese girls. Same usually goes for the non-Western guy (with Japanese), which means they learn each others’ languages pretty well.

One story in regards to using Japanese/English in their relationship really stood out to me.

My wife and I used to use Japanese when we argued , because it’s more polite than English. The worst insults are rather silly: “your mother has a protruding belly button,” that sort of thing. We used to argue a lot, and it kept my Japanese language skills sharp. But after 26 years, we hardly ever argue anymore. So my Japanese language skills are fading. -Ira

It’s funny because it’s true. The Japanese language is inherently set up to be more polite. I wish I could have seen their arguments.

So like “meeting the family” I think there’s less here to worry about than most people might think. Communication can occasionally be an issue, but usually like-minded people will find a way past any problems and make it work without issue. If you’re not meant to be with each other then sure, maybe communication could hurt the relationship. But, if you’re good together then the issue of “communication” will hardly make a drop in the bucket. If that doesn’t happen, though, I guess we can look forward to a future of bionic brain implants.

I hope you enjoyed this post. Also, please no more “Can I haz Japanese girl?” emails, please.

Next up (Friday), Mami is going to take us through some of her experience, being a Japanese girl who married a non-Japanese guy. Please be sure to look forward to that article if you enjoyed this one. I’ve skimmed it already and it’s really interesting!

  • PJace

    Haha, “Let’s get break dance” cracks me up every time. Anyway, as a 5th generation Japanese-American who knew as much Japanese as the next non-Japanese person before getting into the language, I can say that I feel like I’m in an odd place in terms of dating “real” Japanese people. My current girfriend is Japanese, and when I went to go visit her home on my first trip to Japan, I’m not sure if her parents really knew how to act towards me. I look Japanese and have a Japanese last name, but I’m very much a straightforward American at heart so I’m sure that they were conflicted as to whether they should treat me like an American hakujin, an asian gaikokujin, or as a really dumb Japanese person haha. Let me just say this though, being ethnically Japanese isn’t particularly benificial when trying to get a Japanese girlfriend despite what many people may initially think.

  • Francis A.

    Great read! Haha

  • N.T.

    Thanks for posting! I’m really looking forward to the dating a Japanese guy article! I just started dating a man from Japan and I’m always worried that I’m going to shock or offend him! I live in L.A. myself, so it’s painful and hilarious to hear the story of the father and daughter…! :)

  • KaoriCamellia

    I can easily relate to this situation. I’m 2nd generation Japanese-Brazilian, and when I dated a born-in-Japan Japanese person, the interaction with the family was interesting, even if they had been living in the US for several years, especially at the time as a girl dating another girl. I didn’t grow up speaking Japanese (my mother never knew very much), so when I’ve visited family in Japan, it got, well, interesting. Now I’ve got the situation turned on me, as my fiancee is an American of German, Scottish, and Irish descent who are, well, very, very Western.

  • SaM

    I noticed that some of the articles here used Japanese words and not translate it in English.

  • Lazy Husband

    Can’t wait to show this article to my Japanese wife of 9 years as proof that I don’t have to cook or do any more of the house-cleaning. Thanks Koichi!

  • Lava Yuki

    Nice article, interesting to read. That story about the New Years was funny and interesting at the same time. But its true about more Japanese women dating non-Japanese men as opposed to the other way around since I see that often, not just among Japanese but other Asian women as well. I wonder if there is a particular attraction that some Asian women have to Western men since there’s a lot of those kinda couples in my college.

  • Yuume

    This is totally off topic, but…I want to learn some Japanese argument comebacks XD I get really frustrated sometimes, and yelling, “Your mother had a protruding bellybutton” is a lot funnier and nicer than some of the things I have to keep in XD

  • ユー

    It’s logical to assume that the part on “Getting the Girl” only applies to Westerners/non-Asian guys right? :/

  • Mwani

    Please do it if you can!! I think the intercultural communication is pretty interesting. It was really hard for me and my last girlfriend to communicate, she was from Saitama though we met in NY where she had come to go to school..though maybe as you say we weren’t meant to be/clashing personality styles. either way it’s pretty interesting because the way that people expect things to go in different cultures is always fascinating.

  • CelestialSushi

    This is a really nice article; I also appreciated the one about dating a Japanese guy (mostly because I’d be in that situation rather than this one, being a girl and all ;) ) But there is something I’ve been wondering about, and while it’s not really related, something in the article reminded me of it, so I guess that’s a little bit of relevance.

    The article says “The Japanese language is inherently set up to be more polite.” Some of my Japanese-language classmates a while back were talking about Japanese “swear words”, saying that the Japanese don’t really have any, and that the insulting part is mostly just about context or implied meaning or something. I was wondering if this really is true, or if it’s just a myth.

  • Kaasan

    Omae no kaasan, debeso! — That’s what it is. LOL

  • さ~

    I’m a lesbian dating a Japanese woman, and I’d be happy to answer any questions out there.

  • Gregory

    Damn, if some Japanese hate Americans, what they think about Russians? That we deserve to die?

  • Agent Orange

    Great article. Im having a japanese girl over that i have never met before and only spoke to on FB for 1 month. believe it or not but she actuallly booked a ticked to spain from tokyo just to see me. She has been giving me small gifts everyday and is extremly nice and respectful. here in spain we always give two kisses on the cheaks as a greeting and this has been somewhat of a thing for her to get used to wich cracks me up everytime i see that cute confused face. she says se is looking for a husband/man and really doesnt show any signals or affection wich makes it a bit more confusing if i should make the move or just let her do it when she is comfortable. well doesnt really matter, i promised myself to show her the best time here in europe and hope we will have memories that last a lifetime. thanks again for some great reading while miss yoko is asleep in my room …yes i took the guestroom.

  • agent orange

    and she always walks behind me wich i have to get use to.

  • Lucky Guy?

    I have a japanese girlfriend, and most of this isnt necessarily accurate, at least ccording tonthe things she has told me. Not all girls from a single culture fit into the same framework, so you cannot generalize them all in this way. If a Japanese girl thinks you’re attractive, then they think you’re attractive. They’ll be far more appreciative if you’re up front about wanting to date them. And don’t wait too long, either. Friend zone rules apply here, just like any other girl.

  • Lugardo Sandoval

    Awesome article I loved it!

  • Lugardo Sandoval

    I wanna take a guess and say gay relationships are the most compatible. It’s just my guess so don’t read much into it, just post up that article next so I can see how close i got to being right.

  • Trolldaddy420

    Will ya start a series on what it’s like dating Korean/Mongol/Vietnamese girls?

  • David

    You complain that people ask you about this topic with bad grammar and broken English. unfortunately, if you read over your article, it is all over the place. You need to start each paragraph with a topic sentence and stick to it! I got a headache halfway through and stopped.

  • Nihongo

    Hi could you elaborate. How does a lesbian make a move on a Japanese girl?

  • Richard Sly

    Why is it that it is all about the white man stealing the Japanese girls and ruining their race and even culture! Japanese girls need to learn to stop going after us stupid ass feminine looking white men and learn to like their own type of people, the Japanese men. You don’t see any stupid ass white girls going after Japanese men do you?

  • Cilicia Uzziel Perez

    interested.

  • Cilicia Uzziel Perez

    Hello. I’ve got some questions. I hope we could have a bit of a chat. My email is perez.uzziel25@gmail.com.
    I’m currently courting a japanese woman. I don’t know what my chances are and I’m just always assuming that she’s just nice to me and nothing more. I like her a lot and I have liked her for a very long time. It’s going to be hard to balance to keep the friendship and my attempts to making her feel that she’s more than a friend to me.

  • Dricka

    I love Japanese girl´s.Iam dreaming in meeting one !