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	<title>Comments on: A Tale Of Two Yahoo!s</title>
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		<title>By: Mothman</title>
		<link>http://www.tofugu.com/2012/07/17/yahoo-japan-yahoo-america/comment-page-1/#comment-45790</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HAAAAAARRRRRRRD GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! Yes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAAAAAARRRRRRRD GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! Yes.</p>
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		<title>By: koichi</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 05:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this is it - catering to the current generation but not thinking forward. Gets hard when your company gets large, I know, but some big companies can still pull off the forward thinking things despite this, so it can be done. Good analysis!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is it &#8211; catering to the current generation but not thinking forward. Gets hard when your company gets large, I know, but some big companies can still pull off the forward thinking things despite this, so it can be done. Good analysis!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonadab</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 03:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think I agree with most of your analysis.


As near as I can determine, the major mistake Yahoo made in America (not that they didn&#039;t make a whole collection of them, but this IMO is the biggie) was an apparently deliberate decision, some time around 1998, to cater all of their services primarily for people who don&#039;t understand the internet AT ALL.  The problem is, while there were a ton of people like that getting on the internet in the late nineties, there aren&#039;t really so many now, especially in the English-speaking world.  Oh, sure, there are still millions of people who don&#039;t know anything about the internet, but they&#039;re not getting on the internet and trying to use it like most of the people who didn&#039;t understand the internet in 1998 were doing.  The people who still at this point don&#039;t know anything about the internet are steadfastly not buying internet service (or even computers, in many cases), so they don&#039;t constitute a useful market for Yahoo.  Meanwhile, the people who didn&#039;t know anything about the internet in 1998 but were using it anyway have learned and moved on, for the most part.  (Many are still holding onto old Yahoo Mail accounts because they don&#039;t want to change addresses or lose all their old mail, but that&#039;s not a viable business model in the long term.  Nobody&#039;s creating *new* Yahoo Mail accounts except to use one time as throwaways.)


Facebook appears to have made a similar mistake, catering almost willfully to people who don&#039;t understand social networking very well and haven&#039;t really learned to manage their priorities, time, contacts, and privacy.  This hasn&#039;t hurt them yet.  I believe it will.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I agree with most of your analysis.</p>
<p>As near as I can determine, the major mistake Yahoo made in America (not that they didn&#8217;t make a whole collection of them, but this IMO is the biggie) was an apparently deliberate decision, some time around 1998, to cater all of their services primarily for people who don&#8217;t understand the internet AT ALL.  The problem is, while there were a ton of people like that getting on the internet in the late nineties, there aren&#8217;t really so many now, especially in the English-speaking world.  Oh, sure, there are still millions of people who don&#8217;t know anything about the internet, but they&#8217;re not getting on the internet and trying to use it like most of the people who didn&#8217;t understand the internet in 1998 were doing.  The people who still at this point don&#8217;t know anything about the internet are steadfastly not buying internet service (or even computers, in many cases), so they don&#8217;t constitute a useful market for Yahoo.  Meanwhile, the people who didn&#8217;t know anything about the internet in 1998 but were using it anyway have learned and moved on, for the most part.  (Many are still holding onto old Yahoo Mail accounts because they don&#8217;t want to change addresses or lose all their old mail, but that&#8217;s not a viable business model in the long term.  Nobody&#8217;s creating *new* Yahoo Mail accounts except to use one time as throwaways.)</p>
<p>Facebook appears to have made a similar mistake, catering almost willfully to people who don&#8217;t understand social networking very well and haven&#8217;t really learned to manage their priorities, time, contacts, and privacy.  This hasn&#8217;t hurt them yet.  I believe it will.</p>
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		<title>By: koichi</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 17:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ty! All fixed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ty! All fixed.</p>
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		<title>By: SF</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They are not on JASDAQ anymore. They moved to TSE first section years ago.

Oh, don&#039;t forget yahoo Japan finance is pretty big for them. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are not on JASDAQ anymore. They moved to TSE first section years ago.</p>
<p>Oh, don&#8217;t forget yahoo Japan finance is pretty big for them. </p>
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		<title>By: Jonas</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 06:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yahoo! Japan is just one of many examples, HMV and Tower Records are two other companies where we see similar results. I&#039;m merely guessing but the way I see it is that the American and European companies tend to innovate, and when that doesn&#039;t work, there&#039;s nothing but bankruptcy waiting for them. While the Japanese companies of this scale tend to take the economical route and invest in safer options and work on further establishing their name in order to get those long-term customer relationships.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yahoo! Japan is just one of many examples, HMV and Tower Records are two other companies where we see similar results. I&#8217;m merely guessing but the way I see it is that the American and European companies tend to innovate, and when that doesn&#8217;t work, there&#8217;s nothing but bankruptcy waiting for them. While the Japanese companies of this scale tend to take the economical route and invest in safer options and work on further establishing their name in order to get those long-term customer relationships.</p>
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