Conscious Japanese Competence [Obvious]

To fling poo, or not to fling poo. That is the question.

In previous “Obvious” posts, we’ve gone over both the idea of achieving and noticing more epiphanies (because all people need to have X number of epiphanies to level up your Japanese) as well as striving for confusion (because people who are confused are actually learning more than those who aren’t confused). We’re going to build on both of those in this “Making Japanese Obvious” article by taking a look at the idea of “Conscious Competence.” Don’t worry, it only sounds boring. It’s really quite interesting, I think, and something all Japanese language learners will (and need to) run into. It’s much better if you know about it.

What Is “Conscious Competence”?

When you’re learning something new (especially something like Japanese) you go through various stages. One of them happens to be Conscious Competence. Conscious Competence is a great place to be, which is why we’re talking about it. Let’s break up the two words:

Conscious: When you’re aware something’s happening

Competence: When you’re good / decent at something (i.e. you’re competent in it).

“Conscious Competence” is when you know you’re good at something. In the case of this particular article, you are aware that you are good at Japanese. Or, at least, you know what you need to do to get better. That’s good, because you can always move forward, one step at a time.

In order to get to this point, though, there are other steps everyone has to take, whether you’re learning Japanese or you’re learning underwater basket weaving. Conscious Competence just happens to be a really important step in the big picture of things. To help you understand this, we need to take a look at “the stages of learning.”

The Stages Of Learning

You go through several stages when you’re learning. They are the following:

Unconscious Incompetence: This is when you first start out. You have no idea what you’re doing, and everything is fun and exciting. You are unconscious of your incompetence (i.e. you have no idea you’re bad, and everything you do seems great).

Conscious Incompetence: This is when you’ve studied a bit, and you’ve learned enough to know that you’re not very good at Japanese. You finally have enough knowledge to look at yourself and say “omg, I don’t know this this this this and that. Crap.” This is where most people quit, because they think they’re “bad” or “terrible at learning Japanese.” The problem isn’t that you’re bad at Japanese, the problem is that you’ve learned enough (you’re learning, that means you’re winning, really!) to know what you’re not good at, so it only seems like you’ve gotten worse. Actually, you’ve gotten better.

Conscious Competence: This is what we’re talking about in this chapter. Conscious Competence occurs when you know enough to know what to do. When you don’t understand something, you know where to go in order to understand it. You know what to do, and you can solve any problems. Doesn’t mean it’s easy, but you’ve fought through the incompetence to get to the other side.

Unconscious Competence: This is when you’re so good you don’t even know you’re good. The Japanese language (and learning it) has become second nature, and learning has become easy and fluid. This is awesome-sauce stage. You really want to get here, though it will take hard work and persistence.

So why, out of these four, is Conscious Competence so important? Let’s find out.

Conscious Competence

Conscious Competence isn’t the end goal but it is the goal, I think. Unconscious Competence happens when you’ve gone through enough Conscience Competence. Conscious Incompetence happens when you haven’t built up enough competence to reach a conscious state of competence.

People generally quit before they get to Conscious Competence as well. If you reach Conscious Competence, then you’ve learned all you need to learn in order to get what you need when you need it.

Let’s take another look at the graph thingy.

Conscious Incompetence is the lowest of the low. You don’t have that initial excitement, and you don’t have the knowledge to be better at studying Japanese. If you’re going to quit at learning Japanese, you’re going to do it here, most likely. This, I’d say, is week two or three, sometime after learning hiragana, for most people.

Next Week: How To Reach Conscious and Unconscious Competence

So, I think the big question now is how do you reach Conscious Competence? There’s no one way to do it, but there are some great ways to help get you there. A lot of it comes down to consistency, perseverance, and a hard head, but there are certain ways to speed things up for yourself as well. It’s not easy, that’s for sure, but if it was everyone would know Japanese like the back of their hands.

Right now I’m putting together strategies that I’ll share with you next week on reaching these states of competence. Not everyone will get there, and not everyone is meant to get there, but we can do quite a few things to make your odds better as well :)

Have any of you seen yourself going through these phases? Where are you right now (or, where do you think you are…?).

Have no idea where you are because you’ve never started learning Japanese before? You should try TextFugu, where you get guided through the whole competence process. Want to know more about conscious competence, the above graph, and more? The Dip by Seth Godin covers all this and is a really interesting (and inspiring) book that covers this sort of thing.

See you next week!

P.S. We try to be consciously competent on Twitter

P.S.S. Our Facebook skills, however, are somewhat consciously incompetent.


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  • Hailey

    I’m at conscious incompetence, and it’s no fun =(((

  • Anonymous

    I’d like to think that I am at the Conscience Competence stage. I think that because at this point, I definitely know what I am good at, i.e. the fluidity in my reading has become much much better, but I still don’t know what I am reading at times. I push my self to know about every little thing that comes up that is new to me, for instance, If I come across a particle I’ve never studied, I will look that article up, see how it works, review it from time to time, but I don’t make it an obsession to stay stuck on that one thing anymore because I know it will come up again. Why do I know that? Well, because I’m at the point where Japanese learning is not a choice in my daily routine, it’s just part of my day now. I study it everyday, and I know that everything I review today will come back to me full circle in later lessons or studies. 

    The main thing I’ve taken away from TextFugu is that you/we/I must have perseverance to make it in anything, not just Japanese. But you need more than that, obviously, but perseverance is that main thing to keep yourself motivated.

    I actually am enjoying the Conscience Competence stage because it does feel a little like at the beginning, it feels like I’m learning, but this time, there is a humbling factor involved. And if you take being humbled then you probably will let ego get in the way of anything you do. There is no better lesson in life than humility, and Conscience Competence, to some degree, does that for me, maybe for others too.

    ps.
    Another great post, Koichi.

    Thank you.

    ~ fv

  • Katy Everhart Chaffee

    This is really interesting.
    When you say that most people quit before they achieve conscious competence, do you know that just because of personal experience or has someone actually measured this?Can you recommend any good resources for finding out more about the conscious competence model?
    (I ask for research purposes)

  • Anonymous

    Here is one source: http://www.businessballs.com/consciouscompetencelearningmodel.htm

    Hope that helps.

  • Anonymous

    Here is one source: http://www.businessballs.com/consciouscompetencelearningmodel.htm

    Hope that helps.

  • Martin Clark

    I’ve been learning Japanese for years and I wouldn’t say I’ve reached Conscious Competence yet.

  • http://twitter.com/shollum Christopher

    I am somewhere between conscious incompetence and conscious competence, though closer to the former. I know that I can’t read kanji and know few meanings. I know that I can read the kana. And I recognize enough spoken Japanese to have many ‘epiphanies’ and ‘small victories’ while reading.

    Basically, I am past the lowest of the low and quickly, if not steadily, working my way up.

    I also know that the reason I can’t do things steadily is because I am too cheap to pay for something if I can scrounge together stuff on my own for free (or cheaper). This means, I end up checking any source to see if it is accurate, not to mention that I have to find the resources first. I can say though, without a doubt, that Tofugu is the most fun I have had learning about the Japanese language and culture. Plus, some of the theories about learning I have seen on Tofugu have made it into my own theory:
    The best way to learn any language is to learn enough through your own language to learn the rest through the target language. I sent a message about that, but I think that I typed my email wrong. Anyway, that probably counts as [Obvious] as well and I’m over thinking it.

    Anyway, sorry for going on so long.

  • http://twitter.com/shollum Christopher

    I am somewhere between conscious incompetence and conscious competence, though closer to the former. I know that I can’t read kanji and know few meanings. I know that I can read the kana. And I recognize enough spoken Japanese to have many ‘epiphanies’ and ‘small victories’ while reading.

    Basically, I am past the lowest of the low and quickly, if not steadily, working my way up.

    I also know that the reason I can’t do things steadily is because I am too cheap to pay for something if I can scrounge together stuff on my own for free (or cheaper). This means, I end up checking any source to see if it is accurate, not to mention that I have to find the resources first. I can say though, without a doubt, that Tofugu is the most fun I have had learning about the Japanese language and culture. Plus, some of the theories about learning I have seen on Tofugu have made it into my own theory:
    The best way to learn any language is to learn enough through your own language to learn the rest through the target language. I sent a message about that, but I think that I typed my email wrong. Anyway, that probably counts as [Obvious] as well and I’m over thinking it.

    Anyway, sorry for going on so long.

  • http://twitter.com/shollum Christopher

    But that is just real world time. If you asked me how long I have been learning Japanese I would say less than a year, even though I have been ‘officially’ learning Japanese for years and only learned the kana earlier this year or late last year.

    Just because I said I was trying to learn doesn’t mean that I put in much quality learning time. I just didn’t have the resources or methods to learn a foreign language, nor was it very fun as all I did was cram. In fact, most of that stuff I tried to learn years ago when I first started learning, I’ve forgotten.

    What I’m trying to get at is, like this guy at http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com says, it’s not about the real world years, it’s about the time you spend in the language.

    Once you hit the point where you know what you need to do to get better and have the resources to do it in a fun or engaging way (so you don’t forget later, or strain yourself) it’s all downhill… or uphill if you look at the chart. Just a matter of ‘do it’.

    What is with me today? I’ve been typing really long posts, so sorry if I sound like a know it all. I don’t know it all, because no one knows it all.

  • Catherine

    I think I might be midway to reaching Concious Competence, I no longer feel the hopelesness of Concious Incompetence and I’m excited about learning things again such as verb tenses and the kanji (I’ve learned around 230 so far) but I’m pretty sure I’m not that competent yet so I still got to keep at it,

    Thank you for this awesome post, can’t wait for the next “obvious” post

  • Matthew

    I have been studying Japanese for close to five years, and I believe that I am somewhere around Conscious Competence. I know what to do if I want to learn something, and I am aware of how to learn it.
    However, I feel that conscious incompetence is a matter of situation, mostly, and in that sense, I still experience bouts of conscious incompetence. Every time I go to Japan and speak, there always (and inevitably) comes a time where you can’t express yourself further anymore, and that’s when you get the oh-so-Japanese head tilt, followed by an “え?ちょっと待って、どういう意味?” and that makes you realize that you said something that wasn’t quite right. It’s discouraging, but powering through it is necessary! Giving up is something I wouldn’t recommend. I’ve found that drawing a picture if you can helps a lot better than just throwing in the towel.
    I’ve just found that the best thing to do in that situation is to buy a notebook and, if you can, write down the mistake you made and put the correct version in (having a Japanese who knows English is amazing for this).
    Also, here’s a great one: if you hear a word or something you don’t know, write it down in a notebook or something and get it in those Anki-type programs ASAP! And if you can’t find any new words for the day, always have a backup plan and find words to put in. You should (almost) always be adding new stuff to those decks.
    I think that no matter how long you study, there will be times where everyone feels a little consciously incompetent. But like Koichi says, if you’re not confused some of the time, you never really learn anything, so give it your best and push through the confusion! It will be obvious to you some day as long as you persevere.

  • http://www.callistospatches.com Callisto

    I think different parts of my skills are at different levels. That is to say, simple basics like hiragana and some vocabulary are up there in Unconscious Competence– to the point that, when I’m tired, I speak Japanese instead of English for some things. But sometimes my overall communication can jump all over that fancy graph of yours. Sometimes I understand an episode of a ドラマ with Conscious Competence, then the very next episode I feel like I’m back at Conscious Incompetence. These sorts of things happen frequently. It’s a little exhausting.

  • Tomato Graffiti

    What timing! For the past week I’ve been trying to figure out new strategies for studying Japanese. I say ‘studying’ but in reality, I’ve never really ‘studied’ for any prolonged period of time, which by now is what I think my problem may be.

    See, for the past five years or so I’ve pretty much just been ‘absorbing’ Japanese. I’ve had hiragana and katakana down pat since what seems like forever, have a decently-sized vocabulary and know a handful of kanji but at this point in time I’m feeling at a sort of plateau. I’d say I’m maybe somewhere between Conscious Incompetence and Conscious Competence. I feel like crap when I can’t form a sentence, but it feels awesome when I can watch something without feeling the need for subtitles. I know I don’t suck but I’m not quite good yet.

    I feel like I need some help getting over the metaphorical ‘hump’ :/

    P.S. – Koichi, this is the first time I’m ever commenting on something of yours even though I’ve been lurking for some time. You’re awesome :)

  • Anonymous

    I think I reached the concious competence in the past two months. I started studying japanese two years ago,  but here I am still with only a basic japanese level. But around two months ago I decided to change that and for the first time in my life I made a plan for studying japanese. I spent some weeks making experiments with materials and methods and I have discovered many things I didn`t know about myself and about japanese. I think I have learned more japanese in the last two months that in the last two years. Now I know my strong points and my weak points in japanese, I know what I need to study and when I can study and now I have a plan to follow in order to improve. 

    Tofugu has been one of the main contributors to the elaboration of my japanese study plan.

    Thankyou very much!!!!!! ^_^!

  • Justinpskeen

    If I think about
    it I would say I’m somewhat unconsciously competent at this point…but then
    again, wouldn’t my consciousness of this make me consciously competent? lol (frantically tries to shut black hole …. 0/0 )  ….phew, cancelled it out thank god…

  • Anonymous

    I agree with what you’re saying. I’ve been at this for a year and a half now, but I can clearly remember that it wasn’t until I was about 4mos. deep into studying the language that I really started to get very very serious about it. I think it was a testing period [the 4 months or so], fast-forward to today and I get up every morning without even thinking “Am I going to study today?” I don’t think that because it’s automatic… Of course, I’m going to study today!

    ~ fv

  • Peptron

    In my case I seen to be rolling back and forth between conscious competence and conscious incompetence.

    It happened to me too often, after it’s all set in my head and I am “Finally! I’m getting all that perfectly now!” and have somebody come and say “Actually, that’s wrong…” for me to stay at the conscious competent point for long.

    What doesn’t help me is just how Japanese go around talking about your Japanese skills. It usually goes on like that:
    “OMG! You are so great and natural sounding! Everything is completely on mark! Except that, and that, and that, and that, that part I actually cannot make any sense of, what did you mean by that, that part is just stiff sounding, that part is silly, I’m actually holding my sides here, OMG I can’t breathe! Can we talk again tomorrow, you are so cute sounding like a toddler with a post-doc.”.

  • Kincaid42

    When I learn I forget, then I try to learn what I have forgotten, after that I try to learn new stuff, then I forget.. Its a vicious cycle >.<. I guess that means I'm at conscious completeness? I know where to look things up, how to learn, etc.. 

  • Peptron

    A trick I found to speed up learning is to try to make any new info connect to old info. Anything new out of context is just noise for the brain that is doomed to be forgotten in the next 5 minutes.

    What I do is:
    1) Never try to learn a word that you have not seen used in context. That is, stay away from lists of words that just stand like that. In fact, in all my Japanese learning, I think I gave up vocabulary lists after the 1st month and then just went from actual sentences.
    2) Never try to learn a kanji for which you do not know at least a word. Otherwise it’s info that just stands there, and is therefore noise for the brain, and will therefore be forgotten in the next 5 minutes.

    Otherwise, make sure that anything you know relates with something you already know. That sure works for me. Otherwise I seem to naturally forget about 75% of everything I read.

  • Foozlesprite

    The big steps to Conscious Competence are knowing the basics of the language and how to find and use language tools, I think.  Being able to take a conjugated verb and figure out the root so you can look it up in a dictionary.  Being able to take a kanji you haven’t seen before and look it up when you don’t know the pronunciation (I use the kanji by radicals feature on denshi jisho).  Being able to look at a kanji compound and figure out what it means or how it’s pronounced because you’ve seen those kanji before.  It all comes down to sticking with it and practicing often.

  • Foozlesprite

    I understand completely.  Long sentences with complex grammar definitely aren’t unconscious for me, yet if I bump into someone my first instinct is to bow and say あ!すみません!

  • http://twitter.com/JACKTHEDANIELS ジャック (Jack)

    the moment i started i knew i was incompetent lololololol. >.<

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  • http://twitter.com/Black_Noel Chelsi A.

    hohoho, concious incompetence for sure. But i’m working slowly at it. Will i ever reach there someday. Sigh.

  • meine

    I think I have passed the conscious incompetence but is yet to reach the conscious competence. :)

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  • Jabari Akuffo

    These concepts are all derived from Japanese martial arts (budo 武道 ぶどう) they correspond to levels of mastery.

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